European Parliament set to end EU-wide daylight savings

Post by interfixus » Wed, Mar 06, 2019, 8:51 AM UTC

jaabe wrote: post #9

henrikschroder wrote: post #4

In before "Let's all switch to UTC to solve this problem once and for all!" Anyway, it's so weird to me that daylight savings is such a new concept, it didn't exist where I was born when I was born, but it feels like a thing that ought to have existed for a hundred years at least. And yet, despite it being so new, people are actually defending it? Mindboggling.

We changed our educational grading scale a few years back to make it comparable to the international scale. One of the huge problems was that we had a top-grade for people who went “beyond” expectations for the course. Because “beyond” is up for interpretation, some examiners were more likely to give it than others, but in general it was just extremely hard to earn a top mark and no one really knew what was needed to…

Post by apexalpha » Wed, Mar 06, 2019, 8:57 AM UTC

Freak_NL wrote: post #71

apexalpha wrote: post #64

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Exactly. We talked about this in the Netherlands and permanent +2 for us is too far off. That's St Petersburg natural time, it would mean sunrise at 10am in wintertime. If the Germans will really push for permanent +2 time, then there will be a time zone border between us.

Opinion here in the Netherlands is divided between a preference for permanent winter time, permanent summer time, or keep changing the clocks twice a year¹. Sunrise at 10:00 in the winter? Fine! That at least gives us some light in the afternoon. 1: https://www.nrc.nl/nieuws/2018/12/19/meeste-nederlanders-wil...

Post by benj111 » Wed, Mar 06, 2019, 8:59 AM UTC

2038AD wrote: post #60

function_seven wrote: post #28

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> So the plan is that instead of people working hours which suit and know about it we agree on a weird collective lie and get everyone to perform the clock-adjusting ritual Well yeah. Much simpler to make the adjustment once, at an agreed upon time of year, than to have a hodgepodge of different companies, schools, retailers, bagel shops, etc. all move their hours independently. In that case you have a first-mover pr…

>Well yeah. Much simpler to make the adjustment once, at an agreed upon time of year, than to have a hodgepodge of different companies, schools, retailers, bagel shops, etc. all move their hours independently I'm not sure it is simpler to be honest. It's normal for companies to have different starting hours. I'm just about to move to a job where my official start is half an hour later. That increases to an hour with…

Post by macca321 » Wed, Mar 06, 2019, 9:02 AM UTC

StavrosK wrote: post #50

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> I believe the UK observes GMT (UTC±0) That's correct, with BST in the Summer. It can get confusing when working with people from different countries who aren't aware of BST and who schedule meetings explicitly in GMT, thinking that it automatically includes daylight saving.

In my experience, it gets more confusing for English people who schedule meetings in GMT in the summer and then are an hour late.

Post by ktjfi » Wed, Mar 06, 2019, 9:07 AM UTC

Tharkun wrote: post #62

The road to hell is paved with good intentions. Getting rid of DST sounds like a good thing. Not messing time is patently good. But a bunch of countries on the western side of the EU ought to be on GMT instead of GMT+1. And appparently a majority of people want to make that worse, by making a permanent switch to GMT+2. This will make for fun winters, with the sun rising long after rush hour. This is stupid.