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Web Design 3.0: When Your Web Design Matters

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Re: Web Design 3.0: When Your Web Design Matters

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Post by piokoch »

"The use of Bootstrap and the spread of templates made Web Design boring."

Frankly, as a user I don't complain. GUI consistency has a great value for me. Crawling through the fancy artistic designs is fun until I just want to find contact address of some company on their website.

The advantage that MS Windows has (or had, before they decide to go with the "modern designs" here and there) is a GUI predictable across all applications. File menu, Edit menu, Tools menu, Help menu, consistent shortcuts, toolbar, everything always the same, boring - all of this makes users productive.

Re: Web Design 3.0: When Your Web Design Matters

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Post by hjanssen »

I read through the comments an often saw the same sentiment: "Modern Webdesign is bad, artistic expression is bad". Which strikes me as odd. Sure, there is a place for "boring" and information-dense webdesign. If I go through wikipedia and search for something, I want information, and modern webdesign would be bad in that regard. But there is also a place for modern design in websites. Company websites for example. There, the overall design language is part of the brand identity and defines how I see your company. I cant help but see those "bootstrappy-boring" company websites as very unprofessional (although I know I shouldnt make that connection), and I know at least from asking my family members that this effect is only more pronounced in people that have no direct connection to the tech or design industry. We have to recognize that we are a very little minority - many people dont _think_ about websites - they _feel_ them.

Re: Web Design 3.0: When Your Web Design Matters

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Post by qzw »

dccoolgai wrote: post #19

How serious is this vs. tongue-in-cheek? The tone of this article (dripping with sarcasm, I think? E.g. over-repetition of "Web Design".. Web Design 3.0) seems weirdly out-of-sync with the content. If it's a Kaufman-esque joke it's done really well... if it's an actual advertisement for nicepage, it's weird... _BUT_ if it's a stealth thinkpiece about how _no_ design really matters if your content is off, it's absolut…

SEO...

Re: Web Design 3.0: When Your Web Design Matters

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Post by reaperducer »

pixelrevision wrote: post #55
jeroenhd wrote: post #24

I've never heard about "Web Design 3.0" before, but now I know a term to describe websites that care more about artistic expression than bringing across information. Seriously, most of the examples of "Web Design 3.0" look like a piece of modern art. That's great for showcasing your portfolio as a web designer, but if you try to be artsy with the menu of your restaurant I'm going to the competitor. Compare the "Web 2…

Web Design 3.0 = Print designer who just won't give up the good fight

Web Design 3.0 = Screw accessibility

Re: Web Design 3.0: When Your Web Design Matters

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Post by reaperducer »

adjkant wrote: post #49

I'm not a designer but it made me sad when I got to the end to realize this was the opinion of a web design company trying to justify itself and not a true/honest look into the future of web design. From the comments here from actual designers it seems like "3.0" is not a real thing, just a term they created to try and position themselves ahead of website design companies that doing well today when in reality they ar…

"Web Design 3.0" is pretty much AT&T's "5GE"

https://www.digitaltrends.com/mobile/att-5ge-is-not-5g-and-t...

Re: Web Design 3.0: When Your Web Design Matters

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Post by greensoup »

Theodores wrote: post #13

I think that there is much to learn from 'electronic music'. This differed from what came before in the way that the web differed from print. With early techno music you could press a few buttons on a gadget box and it would play the beat for you, on top of this you could sample things and mix them in. Before that drummers had to actually keep time and singers had to hit their notes. Then computers came along. Some o…

Interesting, I`m thinkning in another direction.

With every step into makeing things easier, you lose something. With neural networks, we cant see how or why. With electronic music. the button that lets an orchestra play with one push, makes it more difficult to change one instrument. For webdesign / development: with tools that help you, it is harder to get things really how you want.

I notice this personally as well as coding as with music and find myself, not going back to the basics, but wanting to know more about it so it gives speed with using tools, while still being able to adjust the details.

I believe that there is value in mastering your skills and tools, and that that will you make you a better ... I dont think it has anything to do with a new generation or condifence?

Re: Web Design 3.0: When Your Web Design Matters

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Post by JimBrimble35 »

Taking into consideration the content of this post, as well as the company posting it, this is essentially an invitation to participate in the newest release of the homogenization of web design.

There are already skilled and talented designers/developers out there producing "Web-Design 3.0" sites, but they are doing so at a much higher budget than the average SMB is going to shell out. The tool being advertised brings these layouts and design ideas to a broader range of designers, and allows for projects with this look and feel to be completed at a lower cost.

I actually really like this as a business opportunity. Anyone with a reasonable pipeline of clients could start using this to crank out sites for SMBs and turn a decent profit.

Re: Web Design 3.0: When Your Web Design Matters

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Post by dccoolgai »

snegu wrote: post #60
dccoolgai wrote: post #19

How serious is this vs. tongue-in-cheek? The tone of this article (dripping with sarcasm, I think? E.g. over-repetition of "Web Design".. Web Design 3.0) seems weirdly out-of-sync with the content. If it's a Kaufman-esque joke it's done really well... if it's an actual advertisement for nicepage, it's weird... _BUT_ if it's a stealth thinkpiece about how _no_ design really matters if your content is off, it's absolut…

> For the first time, this article shares the secret about how to create the trendiest web designs in the world. When I read this, I was sure I was in for a fun takedown of web design gimmicks. Sorely disappointed.

> I was sure I was in for a fun takedown of web design gimmicks.

I'm still not certain that it _wasn't_ that...

Re: Web Design 3.0: When Your Web Design Matters

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Post by franga2000 »

1. The article's conclusion is straight up an ad for whatever service it is that this company provides. It's so shameless, I'm almost impressed.

2. While I do like many of the "new" graphic design trends they mention, good graphic design is not always (and in fact not usually) good web design. Paper is usually a reasonable size and shape and, most importantly, is not able to suddenly change in either of those parameters at any moment. Almost every attempt at this that I've seen has been either broken, stupid or different when using viewed on smartphones and the like. If you just show me the desktop version, I will get annoyed from scrolling and zooming. If you try to slightly adjust it, you will probably end up wasting an absurd amount of screen real-estate. If you adjust it to the point where the experience is good, I'll be frustrated when I try to find the same thing on my desktop an hour later and get a completely different layout for the same URL.

The fact is that you need many different designs for different mediums and while a "poster" style website could do that, anything you expect people to "browse" needs to be mostly standard and have to adapt as little as possible.

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