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Apple’s 2018 MacBook Pros Attempt to Solve Flexgate, Without Admitting It Exists

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I can assure you the message is consistent internally with action. It’s not just marketing. Disclosure: I work for Apple.

Why then has iOS tracked our frequently visited locations by default for years? https://www.businessinsider.com/how-to-see-your-iphone-locat...

According to Apple, “in order to provide useful location-related information in Maps, Calendar, Photos, and more. Significant Locations are encrypted and cannot be read by Apple”.

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The weirdest part of all of this is the recurrent problems of Apple products in peoples tech-life-time, and the same people, while annoyed, embrace it... and I just don't get it. If products fail on you consistently, why you keep buying them? It's 2019, there's a lot of great products out there, with way more quality than some Apple products. If the problem is the "ecosystem" you bought into, well maybe it was a mist…

As far as I can tell (I haven't owned Apple kit since an iPod with a spinning disk), OS X is a hell of a drug.

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Yep, Louis rossman, a popular apple repair guy on YouTube talks similiar about this a lot. The overwhelming majority of problems are fixable for 10 minutes or less and less than a dollar in components. But apple will just tell you to buy a new board and purposefully makes it harder for repair. The whole 'sustainability' is a marketing act.

There was a hyped report where they said they recovered over 2204 lbs of gold from their hardware, this number quoted in every news story: https://www.geek.com/apple/apples-recycling-program-recovere... 2204 lbs is 1000kg converted to lbs, rounded down. If that's not a marketing number I don't know what is

And much, if not most if it will not be from Apple hardware IIRC. Apple is obliged to recycle old electronics, not just its own.

Re: Apple’s 2018 MacBook Pros Attempt to Solve Flexgate, Without Admitting It Exists

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The weirdest part of all of this is the recurrent problems of Apple products in peoples tech-life-time, and the same people, while annoyed, embrace it... and I just don't get it. If products fail on you consistently, why you keep buying them? It's 2019, there's a lot of great products out there, with way more quality than some Apple products. If the problem is the "ecosystem" you bought into, well maybe it was a mist…

Let's be clear about this: we have no idea how often this issue is occuring. From what we're seeing it could be 0.0001% of Apple Laptops failing within 3 years. This just tends to get a lot of attention. If you buy an Acer laptop it'll probably be 10x more likely to break in 3 years, but no one cares because the Acer brand is crap.

This isn't surprising, the likelihood of breakdown is just 1 aspect of choosing to buy a laptop.

There might be 'great' products out there, but my experience is that Windows is a total turd and so even if you could find hardware as good as Apple's your still torturing yourself everyday. There's loads of reasons to make the choice and a tiny % chance of your laptop breaking isn't going to completely convince people not to buy.

Re: Apple’s 2018 MacBook Pros Attempt to Solve Flexgate, Without Admitting It Exists

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But, important thing to say, I hold on to my Macbook Pro 2013 because of the bad quality of the new versions, not because I’m happy keeping my 2013. The money is still available and I would happily throw €3000 at Apple. It’s just that, they don’t want it, as if I’m not in their target audience. I don’t write enough emojis to benefit from an emoji bar.

Yeah, there's a ton of money just sitting there for whoever makes a viable replacement for the 2012-2015 rMBP. Anything with windows on it is disqualified, and I don't have the inclination these days to deal with driver issues from running Linux on something unsupported. The closest I've seen are the Dell XPS 13/15 and Thinkpad X1 Carbon/X1 Extreme, but I'm not a fan of the Dell build quality, and the linux support o…

Anything with windows is disqualified? To me is the other way around, anything with mac os x is disqualified, immediatelly with no mercy :)

Re: Apple’s 2018 MacBook Pros Attempt to Solve Flexgate, Without Admitting It Exists

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Looking around my desk, I see a MagSafe power supply, with strain relief on both ends, a Thunderbolt cable, with strain relief, an HDMI adapter, with strain relief, a Lightning cable, with strain relief...what are you even talking about?

What strain relief, the crappy flex neck that stiffens over time becoming itself a strain point making the cables fray on their discontinuity? (Note how normally strain releifs are graduated... but let’s not get function to prevail of form!) I haven’t had an Apple laptop without the darn thing breaking after a couple years... it’s a tax, as well as guaranteed landfill material. Just google “apple power supply cable f…

The cables absolutely do fray but the flex neck you are referencing clearly is a strain reliever, just one that was designed with a lot more focus on aesthetics than function. I do sympathize with hating the cables because I used to go though one myself about every 18 months or so until my work laptop was replaced with one that charges over USB-C. However, I still feel like the original basis for this thread is a hyperbolic claim and I think it's pretty fair to respond by pointing that out.

Re: Apple’s 2018 MacBook Pros Attempt to Solve Flexgate, Without Admitting It Exists

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On the flipside, Apple has a lot more data on what components fail than we do. They can detect issues before they become a "-gate" and I imagine slight improvements like this one happen fairly often. Which, I'd say, is a good engineering practice and culture.

Or they could just use standard parts and make their machines more repairable. I recently upgraded my MacMini Server 2012 with max ram and SSDs. My Air is still going strong, so this may be the last time I get a Mac. Which is too bad. Their older machines were really really nice. The new ones are kinda shit. Had they just kept releasing the same models with upgraded specs and none of the crazy price increases and imp…

What exactly is a "standard" part in high-end portable computer manufacturing?

Re: Apple’s 2018 MacBook Pros Attempt to Solve Flexgate, Without Admitting It Exists

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Yes, the various ports were also a big selling point. By the time USB-C will be democratized we will have (I hope) a total revision that will solve the current issues.

I hope USB-C (the connector at least) never becomes the standard. I have a MBP with these god awful ports and it's really frustrating how bad the connector is. There are DJs for whom the macbook pro is required equipment for their performances. They're performing in front of 10s and sometimes >100 thousand people. Their midi controllers, and their SOUND CARDS (really a DJ mixer, most likely) are connected by: USB A.…

I have exactly the opposite experience. I find that USB-A connectors tend to become loose over time, and eventually a mild bump is enough that the device disconnects (even though it looks like it's still 100% plugged in). No such issues with USB-C yet.

Re: Apple’s 2018 MacBook Pros Attempt to Solve Flexgate, Without Admitting It Exists

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I paid for AppleCare and Apple fixed my keyboard twice and replaced my display for free. No questions asked.

The counter-argument is that such an expensive machine should not fail.

Hardware suffers from wear-and-tear. My upfront investment for AppleCare more than paid for itself.

Re: Apple’s 2018 MacBook Pros Attempt to Solve Flexgate, Without Admitting It Exists

#130

The weirdest part of all of this is the recurrent problems of Apple products in peoples tech-life-time, and the same people, while annoyed, embrace it... and I just don't get it. If products fail on you consistently, why you keep buying them? It's 2019, there's a lot of great products out there, with way more quality than some Apple products. If the problem is the "ecosystem" you bought into, well maybe it was a mist…

Apple's is bad, but the alternatives are not much better. I mean just trying to shop for a laptop on Lenovo or Dell's website is a horrible experience.
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