These are awfully contested dates. Hun: 100? Vedic: 1000? Etc. These statistics obscure more than they explain, I think.
Studying the demise of historic civilisations
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#12It looks like the U.S. has another 93 years to look forward to!
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#13The US lasted 243 years. Is it the oldest modern nation? I wonder, how will the modern nations different from the ancient ones?
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#14Typical western garbage. Applying vague nation state ideas to civilization. Hindus for example have seen thousands of years as their own unbroken history. Many mantras that I chant today are at least 1500 year old.
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#15Typical western garbage. Applying vague nation state ideas to civilization. Hindus for example have seen thousands of years as their own unbroken history. Many mantras that I chant today are at least 1500 year old.
You understand that an "average" means that many skew higher, often much higher, right?
If anything, this shows most ancient civilizations were measured in decades, not centuries. But some did go thousands.
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#16The full article is here: http://www.bbc.com/future/story/20190218-are-we-on-the-road-...
'Interestingly' the first two listed factors are ecology related, and the biggest thread to the European civilization is not explicitly stated.
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#17The Kingdom of Israel and Judah? While Wikipedia is not a credible source, it's a good summary https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kingdom_of_Israel_(united_mona...
> In contemporary scholarship the united monarchy is generally held to be a literary construction and not a historical reality, pointing to the lack of archaeological evidence.
See The Bible Unearthed for a more authentic source. I am slightly biased because I have been to Tel Hazor after and because of reading that book. (No matter who ruled at the time but a 25 x 21 m citadel with two-meter thick walls built three thousand years ago is just jaw dropping.)
Also, Vedic Civilisation [1000]? What evidence do we have that calls for this period to be called a single civilisation...?
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#18Absolutely fantastic book:- Why Nations Fail: The Origins of Power, Prosperity, and Poverty
https://www.amazon.com/Why-Nations-Fail-Origins-Prosperity/d...
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#19Typical western garbage. Applying vague nation state ideas to civilization. Hindus for example have seen thousands of years as their own unbroken history. Many mantras that I chant today are at least 1500 year old.
You understand that an "average" means that many skew higher, often much higher, right? If anything, this shows most ancient civilizations were measured in decades, not centuries. But some did go thousands.
Yes but they have given specific numbers like Harappan -> 800.
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#20The US lasted 243 years. Is it the oldest modern nation? I wonder, how will the modern nations different from the ancient ones?
it is not, case in point: Great Britain