Only way to keep an "open" internet is to make our decision makers make open standards law. It's not perfect but it force the companies to open up their closed gardens.
What would that law make them do?
De-Google-Ify Internet
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Re: De-Google-Ify Internet
#42Earlier quoted context omitted.
At least Google and Apple are big contributors to open source software (e.g. Chromium, CUPS). Instead of roasting big companies (because... privacy?) we should work together. This picture does more harm, because it view companies purely as enemies.
Open source is NOT free software. You are not free because you are using Chromium instead of Chrome. Free software is a philosophy, Open source just mean every one can read the source. You can contribute to Open Source and be evil...
Chromium is free software, just like the vast majority of open source.
The philosophies are certainly different, but the code produced by one generally fits the other definition as well. MIT, BSD, Apache, WTFPL, etc - all of these licenses fit both the open source and free software definitions.
Re: De-Google-Ify Internet
#43https://hn.algolia.com/?query=degooglisons-internet&sort=byP...
Been posted so many times before
Re: De-Google-Ify Internet
#44Earlier quoted context omitted.
The free alternative (without quote, they really are free) are mostly other free software with a FramaSoft branding, in order to make it look like a coherent offering rivaling Google suite. If you go in the documentation of each software, you will see what project it comes from. For example, Framabag is Wallabag, Framanotes is Turtl, Framapad is Etherpad, etc...
I can't wait for them to release the latest update for FramaWeb (which is just firefox but you call it FramaWeb) to the FramaOS (which is just linux but you call it FramaOS) for my FraMachine (which is just a computer but it's specifically built by this one dude and you call it the FraMachine).
It sounds stupid, but it's actually very useful to unify everything on a single brand instead of having a hard to navigate archipelago of software. You might say it's hypocritical to turn themselves into a vendor, but if that vendor aligns with my values and can be trusted, then I'd be happy to buy a FraMachine with everything you listed because I know there's only quality FOSS software/hardware without spending ages researching and building everything myself.
Re: De-Google-Ify Internet
#45This is a French free software foundation that have collected together various open source alternatives under a unified branding. Being neither a startup nor american, they are of course condemned to eternal scorn by many HN readers.
You may watch https://framatube.org/videos/watch/c193a2f6-8b24-48c3-a93e-f... to learn more about us.
Re: De-Google-Ify Internet
#46What is the best single term description for software like this? Self Hosting (It was already a term for an unrelated thing) Control Panel (its more than a control panel) Full Stack Automation (that is what I thought of calling it) personal cloud (What does personal mean) personal infrastructure (that does sound intimidating) community computer (a small server that only serves a particular community or small business…
PaaS (Platform as a Service) would qualify I think.
Re: De-Google-Ify Internet
#47Earlier quoted context omitted.
The period goes in the quotation at the end of a sentence, like "so."
Not in British typography (it does in American).
That's interesting. I do it the British way when I write English (because it's the way we do it in my native language in my native country too).
What's the rationale for enclosing the punctuation within the quotation marks? It's not part of the quote after all. What happens if the sentence is a question that ends with a quote? If the quote itself isn't a question, enclosing the question mark would interfere with its meaning.
Is the idea that quotes always should use proper punctuation too, and that if the ending mark is the same as the one finishing the sentence the quote ends, then it's superfluous to write it twice?
I realize this might not be an easy question and that the answer may well be "just because".
Re: De-Google-Ify Internet
#48https://degooglisons-internet.org/img/Peha-Banquet-CC-By-192... This is not what I want the Internet to be.
omg that's exactly the internet i want :)
Re: De-Google-Ify Internet
#49What is the best single term description for software like this? Self Hosting (It was already a term for an unrelated thing) Control Panel (its more than a control panel) Full Stack Automation (that is what I thought of calling it) personal cloud (What does personal mean) personal infrastructure (that does sound intimidating) community computer (a small server that only serves a particular community or small business…
I'd say decentralized fits the bill quite nicely. EDIT: Decentralized as in "Decentralized Service" or something along that line.
That seems to be framasoft's message. Decentralized sometimes means peer to peer which doesn't describe the software I currently have in my web app manager.
Re: De-Google-Ify Internet
#50Earlier quoted context omitted.
At least Google and Apple are big contributors to open source software (e.g. Chromium, CUPS). Instead of roasting big companies (because... privacy?) we should work together. This picture does more harm, because it view companies purely as enemies.
> At least Google and Apple are big contributors to open source software (e.g. Chromium, CUPS). …that's a strange choice. Basically every company in that comic contributes in some way to open source.
Contributing to open source is not contributing to free software, the big 5 are indeed all doing quite the opposite: creating walled gardens, trying to monopolize the distribution of software and goods, and pushing for a web monoculture.
Also, they are making the web a more centralist and frankly, boring, place.