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Facebook won’t let you opt out of its phone number ‘look up’ setting

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Re: Facebook won’t let you opt out of its phone number ‘look up’ setting

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Post by gdfasfklshg4 »

on_and_off wrote: post #34
potatofarmer45 wrote: post #14

This will make keeping your social media private during recruiting much much harder because rather than trying to search for your name on FB or your email, an interviewer can just search your listed contact number. Names are often not unique but phone numbers are. This matters because creating a new email account for recruiting is trivial, yet creating a new phone number for recruiting is not. Most phones are not dua…

There are also a non negligible number of people using an alias on facebook because they have good reason. Apparently when a woman uses a pseudonym on facebook, it is not unlikely that it is because of a nasty/stalkerish ex that she would rather get away from. I am actually in favor of a transparent society (a la david brin) , but we have to grown up a lot and handle such cases before the advantages that come with it…

> Apparently when a woman uses a pseudonym on facebook, it is not unlikely that it is because of a nasty/stalkerish ex that she would rather get away from.

Also men do this...

Re: Facebook won’t let you opt out of its phone number ‘look up’ setting

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Post by Teever »

nuclear_eclipse wrote: post #89
jzl wrote: post #81

Earlier quoted context omitted.

If you apply to work at Facebook do they look at non-public content in your Facebook account? Let's assume you're not even keeping your Facebook profile a secret.

No. This would be a violation of our data privacy policies and would result in immediate termination of all employees involved.

Given the complete lack of respect that Facebook has for individual privacy and the wellbeing of our society in general why should anyone believe this?

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Post by ahelwer »

tobr wrote: post #82

If you are a Facebook employee, or are close to one, please help me understand. How does it feel to see reports like this being released almost weekly? I realize people are very good at dealing with moral dissonance when their paycheck depends on it, but surely you must be thinking, talking to your colleagues, about what your personal responsibility in this is?

They don't care. A job at Facebook is still considered prestigious by a large part of the tech community. They're starting to be grouped more with Palantir than Google, though.

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Post by ru999gol »

wtmt wrote: post #57

Ok, so Facebook has yet another appalling practice that's been known for quite sometime (see the Telegraph article linked in this one). The percentage of users boycotting the company and its products don't seem to materially matter. Facebook is making more money now than before. Facebook will not behave well on its own. Regulation and really hefty fines running into a low double digit percentage of revenue (not profi…

hahaha thank you, the thought of republicans or democrats effectively regulating a predatory corporation for malicious business practices made me laugh out loud :D

Re: Facebook won’t let you opt out of its phone number ‘look up’ setting

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Post by Mirioron »

gotocake wrote: post #58
willio58 wrote: post #18

Earlier quoted context omitted.

So get off public social networks. Problem solved.

I realize that you’re getting slammed for a pat, trite, or unhelpful answer to a complex problem, but it also happens to be the only answer. It’s an answer with real consequences, but when weighed against giving your privacy over to FB what else is to be done right now? Public social networks are poison, they’re inimical to privacy, and we need to get off of any that harvest personal information. Telling people to “q…

I don't understand why people signed up for Facebook in the first place. The Zuckerberg email and dumbasses quote has been around for a long time.

Re: Facebook won’t let you opt out of its phone number ‘look up’ setting

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Post by Broken_Hippo »

bwann wrote: post #84
cbzbc wrote: post #45

Earlier quoted context omitted.

You can set it to be searchable by friends only, which should avoid recruiters being able to do this, unless they are adding themselves as friends first.

I totally get people want a "only me" option here, but really how bad is "friends-only" here? If I'm "friends" with you, you probably already know my phone number in real life.

Because a "facebook friend" isn't an actual friend, and having these "friends" have my phone number is like everyone in a bar being able to look up my number. Or perhaps like going to a work conference and everyone being able to call me.

The random "How are you are you single wanna talk about sex with me?!!???" messages are bad enough. I certainly don't want those as phone calls.

Those on the list that are actual Friends might have my phone number. Might not, though, since there is no point (I moved countries). In any case, they know not to freaking call me unless it is important or you have reason or you want me to answer my door.

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Post by gdfasfklshg4 »

usrusr wrote: post #98
Already__Taken wrote: post #96

Earlier quoted context omitted.

see also: Any employee in the education sector would have good reason.

I wonder how long it takes until the whole teaching profession just collectively decides to adopt professional pseudonyms. Would make "child at same school"-situations even more awkward I guess.

The issue would be safeguarding.

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Post by _Microft »

potatofarmer45 wrote: post #14

This will make keeping your social media private during recruiting much much harder because rather than trying to search for your name on FB or your email, an interviewer can just search your listed contact number. Names are often not unique but phone numbers are. This matters because creating a new email account for recruiting is trivial, yet creating a new phone number for recruiting is not. Most phones are not dua…

Just two weeks ago: Falsehoods Programmers Believe About Phone Numbers - https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=11321236

Re: Facebook won’t let you opt out of its phone number ‘look up’ setting

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Post by throwaway9d0291 »

potatofarmer45 wrote: post #14

This will make keeping your social media private during recruiting much much harder because rather than trying to search for your name on FB or your email, an interviewer can just search your listed contact number. Names are often not unique but phone numbers are. This matters because creating a new email account for recruiting is trivial, yet creating a new phone number for recruiting is not. Most phones are not dua…

> creating a new phone number for recruiting is not

Actually it's really straightforward with Twilio and you can set it to forward to a regular number. Works in most countries/regions.

I used it to give my wife a US number for clients (she's a freelancer).

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Post by touristtam »

derefr wrote: post #72
bfred_it wrote: post #43

Earlier quoted context omitted.

We had a million years to grow up, I don't think we'll ever get there (without drastic measures a la 1984, if you wish)

We haven’t started doing any serious genetic engineering (or maybe, depending on timeline, the equivalent for minds uploaded into computers) yet. Once we do, we could do a lot of “growing up” very quickly.

It isn't physical "growing up" that we, as a species, need to do. This is the way the whole society act. If you look at politics and corporate world, it feels like a bunch of pre schooler throwing tantrum. As a society we are not acting responsibly. You could argue that the worse are countries that still argue to go to war with their neighbors on the pretends the later are different, but the rest allowing to destroy the planet while keeping the rest of the society under control, preventing us, as a species, to achieve goals that are dreamed by the most creative of us. And it is depressingly easy to keep the status quo.

The "Growing up" reminded me of this song: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5ja-mHeYAKM

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