Polonium in water will reduce the crime rate to 0.
I don't want them putting chemicals in the water.
Lithium in drinking water and crimes, suicides related to drug addictions (1990)
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Re: Lithium in drinking water and crimes, suicides related to drug addictions (1990)
#22And Omega-3 makes you less violent
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/25793501
7-Up originally contained Lithium
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/7_Up
Fish contains both Lithium and Omega-3
Re: Lithium in drinking water and crimes, suicides related to drug addictions (1990)
#23Excess lithium causes other problems:
"A recently discovered environmental health problem of potential public health relevance is the presence of elevated concentrations of lithium in drinking water []. Lithium has been suggested to be essential for humans [], however, the evidence is weak. On the other hand, lithium exposure has been associated with impaired thyroid function in women [], including pregnant women [], in northern Argentina, where the lithium concentrations in drinking water range 5–1660μg/L. Lithium readily crosses the placenta [] and an inverse association between maternal blood lithium concentrations during pregnancy and birth length has also been observed []. Lithium has long been used in the treatment of bipolar disease[]. The side effects of lithium therapy include impaired calcium homeostasis, often as hyperparathyroidism []. Whether lithium in drinking water can have similar effects in the general population is not known. The calcium homeostasis is strictly regulated because of calcium's important role in bone formation, intracellular signaling and muscle contraction." (citations [] omitted)
- https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/26828622 / http://www.sverigesnatur.org/app/uploads/2017/10/li-and-ca-h... (quote from the intro in this pdf)
Lithium, Sodium and Potassium are in Group 1:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Periodic_table#/media/File:Sim...
Calcium and Magnesium are in Group 2.
Adequate salts are vary important to health. I'd rather have adequate Na, K, Ca, and Mg than supplemental Li.
tl/dr: I drink salted orange juice (K), eat salted potatoes (K), add salt to my dairy products (Ca and K), and salt my green vegetables (Mg).
Drugging people with Lithium is an intervention done on the basis of "we don't know why it sometimes works, but it seems to sometimes help, so we might as well try it, and if the patient complains their opinion doesn't actually matter."
Re: Lithium in drinking water and crimes, suicides related to drug addictions (1990)
#24Earlier quoted context omitted.
I'm sure the implication is "anti anxiety" (I think lithium is that class?) drugs in water supply reduce crime, rather than anything else
It’s a mood stabilizer. At therapeutic doses it makes the entire world seem grey, and is generally used to help people with enormous uncontrollable emotional swings. AFAIK no studies have been ever done on “microsdosing” it
thanks!
Re: Lithium in drinking water and crimes, suicides related to drug addictions (1990)
#25Earlier quoted context omitted.
I'm sure the implication is "anti anxiety" (I think lithium is that class?) drugs in water supply reduce crime, rather than anything else
Not an expert but I've only ever heard it prescribed for people with serious bipolar and perhaps schizophrenia.
thanks!
Re: Lithium in drinking water and crimes, suicides related to drug addictions (1990)
#26When I was homeless and having bad mood swings as a side effect of medical stuff, I asked my son to look up info and see if there was a lithium and salt connection (because my condition involves salt misprocessing). He said yes, there was.
We then looked for dietary sources of lithium. I began consuming beef or pork with salted potato dishes to prevent the wild mood swings. It worked.
/Anecdata
Re: Lithium in drinking water and crimes, suicides related to drug addictions (1990)
#27When I was homeless and having bad mood swings as a side effect of medical stuff, I asked my son to look up info and see if there was a lithium and salt connection (because my condition involves salt misprocessing). He said yes, there was. We then looked for dietary sources of lithium. I began consuming beef or pork with salted potato dishes to prevent the wild mood swings. It worked. /Anecdata
The periodic table strongly hints at a lithium salt connection.
But what made you suspect lithium deficiency?
Pork, beef, and salted potatoes sounds like a standard American diet. It's the core of the McDonald's menu :-)
Re: Lithium in drinking water and crimes, suicides related to drug addictions (1990)
#28I thought that stephen (freakenomics) Levitt has shown (innhis own research) that this result was insufficient to explain the 1990s crime drop - his theory that he says fit the data was the Supreme court decision allowing abortion (Roe v wade) - in other words the teenage criminals of 1990 simply did not get born
The data involving lithium has generally involved localized effects. You're talking about the general trends.
And freakonomics didn't by any means solve the question of the general trends. Here's a decent vox article that explores 16 competing theories that each have plausibility. Some of which have already been mentioned in the comments here (such as the end of leaded gasoline)
Re: Lithium in drinking water and crimes, suicides related to drug addictions (1990)
#29When I was homeless and having bad mood swings as a side effect of medical stuff, I asked my son to look up info and see if there was a lithium and salt connection (because my condition involves salt misprocessing). He said yes, there was. We then looked for dietary sources of lithium. I began consuming beef or pork with salted potato dishes to prevent the wild mood swings. It worked. /Anecdata
The periodic table strongly hints at a lithium salt connection. But what made you suspect lithium deficiency? Pork, beef, and salted potatoes sounds like a standard American diet. It's the core of the McDonald's menu :-)
I don't eat the standard American diet. I eat enough vegetarian meals that meat-and-potatoes relatives have accused me of being vegetarian. And burgers: ew. Not my thing.
I've had a few bipolar friends. I was having pretty severe mood swings that were very out of character for me. They reminded me of what little I knew of bipolar behavior.
Re: Lithium in drinking water and crimes, suicides related to drug addictions (1990)
#30I thought that stephen (freakenomics) Levitt has shown (innhis own research) that this result was insufficient to explain the 1990s crime drop - his theory that he says fit the data was the Supreme court decision allowing abortion (Roe v wade) - in other words the teenage criminals of 1990 simply did not get born
That seems a bit suspect to be the single explanation, because the poorest people most at risk of becoming criminals wouldn't have easy access to abortion even if legal. Even today, access to and effective use of birth control is challengingly low among people of little means.