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Re: Amazon Removed Anti-Vax Documentaries from Prime Video

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Unpopular opinion: I don’t like this. Would much prefer that ideas compete. Id sort of give Amazon a pass since, unlike twitter, Reddit, Facebook & YouTube, it doesn’t make many promises regarding the free exchange of ideas. But still.

I think your opinion is basically the standard one: censorship is generally bad, marketplace of ideas, etc.

I don't have a take on this particular issue. But I think censorship is generally very dangerous, and I also think the Mill-style marketplace of ideas is a bad analogy bordering on the nonsensical the more I think about it.

Humans generally synchronize their ideas with each other and generally put minimal effort into validating their ideas because the synchronization process works enough as a heuristic.

The obvious attack then is to blast out intentionally harmful material in order to do things like cause disease outbreaks.

Our position can't just be that were defenseless against this kind of attack because censorship is more evil than disease outbreaks. There must be some nuance that so far nobody has articulated sufficiently well.

And none of this really even matters because Amazon is a private platform where I can almost never find the thing I want to watch. The amount of things not on Prime Video is so vast that it's hard to get up in arms about them removing something that has no obvious value other than to cause harm.

Re: Amazon Removed Anti-Vax Documentaries from Prime Video

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Unpopular opinion: I don’t like this. Would much prefer that ideas compete. Id sort of give Amazon a pass since, unlike twitter, Reddit, Facebook & YouTube, it doesn’t make many promises regarding the free exchange of ideas. But still.

Fake news isn't ideas. It's fake facts.

Re: Amazon Removed Anti-Vax Documentaries from Prime Video

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I suspect you’ll find this opinion is more popular than you expect.

Competing ideas are good but mass public disinformation is one the 21rst century's biggest problems already. There needs to be some counter to this.

> There needs to be some counter to this.

Does the implementation of the "counter" matter to you? Do you think giant corporations should be the gatekeeper on what information/ideas/speech is permitted and what is not?

Re: Amazon Removed Anti-Vax Documentaries from Prime Video

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Here is an insert for you to enjoy! https://imgur.com/a/Q8IvuZJ

Do you mind helping us interpret this? I'm not picking up from this what you probably intend.

Now this is just one vaccine, and its not wise to extrapolate wholesale.

However, this one clearly states: there have been no controlled trials adequately demonstrating a decrease in influenza from using this product.

Note: Its curious I'm being downvoted for actually posted an actual insert, which has real scientific information. You would think all the "science lovers" would applaud that. Ho hum, I guess I should've posted a Merck marketing ad instead.

Re: Amazon Removed Anti-Vax Documentaries from Prime Video

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There are some that would say that a government should not be able to force you to inject things into your own or your children's bodies. They would call that tyranny. Much of the pro-choice argument regarding abortion is based on the idea that you own your own body. My kids get vaccinated, but I sympathize with the anti-vaxxers arguments regarding governmental force.

It's a bit of a public health nuisance when kids start dying because other people don't want their kids to get a measles shot

It's hard to believe that tens of thousands of kids still die from the measles every year.

Re: Amazon Removed Anti-Vax Documentaries from Prime Video

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I suspect you’ll find this opinion is more popular than you expect.

Competing ideas are good but mass public disinformation is one the 21rst century's biggest problems already. There needs to be some counter to this.

It's a made up problem. There has always been lots of bad information. People are better informed than ever.

Just take religion and magic and superstition which have declined a lot.

It's a made up problem to justify authoritarian solutions.

Re: Amazon Removed Anti-Vax Documentaries from Prime Video

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Fantastic. I would be thrilled to see other tech companies declare a holy war against this kind of misinformation. In fact, it would make me ecstatic if they started doing the same with other topics that have overwhelming scientific consensus, like climate change.

I frankly don't care if it's censorship. It's a hill I'll happily die on.

Re: Amazon Removed Anti-Vax Documentaries from Prime Video

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Silencing ideas is not the way to correct them...

How well has letting people air these ideas worked? Compare the number of Nazis in Germany (and hate crimes committed by same) vs. Lost Causers in the American South and their hate crimes. It's one thing to hold a belief in a certain threshold for freedom of speech. It's another thing to state without evidence that it has better outcomes.

There's a really nice place you may consider as an option that tightly controls information. No need to worry about encountering bad ideas in the People's Republic of Korea. There's also China. They have a much safer internet there. Not as safe as DPRK's internet, but still pretty good.
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