A 13M gender college degree gap since 1982 favoring women
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#2How patriarchal.
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#3If SJW were coherent, they would stop 13M women from getting degrees so that there was gender equality (equality of outcome as usual, of course).
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#4Wish I could read this, but the site owner is using cloudflare to force visitors to solve Google's captchas.
Nota bene HNers claiming that one can simply "not use Google".
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#5I believe we should talk more about men's issues, but this article/stat doesn't look honest.
Here is a stat of absolute number of males/females with higher education in US. Only recently it evened out:
https://www.statista.com/statistics/184272/educational-attai...
Obviously, if the trend continues, we will have a real college degree gap soon, so this may be a good moment to warn against it. But let's not use twisted statistics for it.
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#6I believe we should talk more about men's issues, but this article/stat doesn't look honest. Here is a stat of absolute number of males/females with higher education in US. Only recently it evened out: https://www.statista.com/statistics/184272/educational-attai... Obviously, if the trend continues, we will have a real college degree gap soon, so this may be a good moment to warn against it. But let's not use twisted…
The stats you posted are for the total US population though, so that includes people who graduated 30+ years ago. It's probably more useful to look at current graduation rates or degree holders of a younger age. If you do, the divide between men and women (in women's favor) is more extreme:
https://www.theatlantic.com/business/archive/2017/11/gender-...
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#7> how do we justify the continued gender favoritism for college women in terms of female-only scholarships, awards, fellowships, programs and many other campus resources
This article would be a lot more interesting if he actually talked about those things in some detail. Just saying that women are getting more degrees than men isn't very interesting, as it has been known for a long time.
It's great for a snappy headline, but not so good for helping to figure out how to make things better.
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#8Its certainly interesting, but is also a perfectly acceptable outcome. Equality of opportunity does not mean equality of outcome.
Not directly related, but I wonder what a chart would look like if you compared the absolute value of a college degree with this same time span. Its anecdotal, but success doesn't seem tied to college degrees in my experience. At this point I'd only get a degree if absolutely required by some sort of perfect job opportunity, as there doesn't appear to be any value to me personally otherwise.
Re: A 13M gender college degree gap since 1982 favoring women
#9Its certainly interesting, but is also a perfectly acceptable outcome. Equality of opportunity does not mean equality of outcome. Not directly related, but I wonder what a chart would look like if you compared the absolute value of a college degree with this same time span. Its anecdotal, but success doesn't seem tied to college degrees in my experience. At this point I'd only get a degree if absolutely required by s…
oh ok. it just means equality of outcome when it is mostly men at the top of something. like engineering.
Re: A 13M gender college degree gap since 1982 favoring women
#10Its certainly interesting, but is also a perfectly acceptable outcome. Equality of opportunity does not mean equality of outcome. Not directly related, but I wonder what a chart would look like if you compared the absolute value of a college degree with this same time span. Its anecdotal, but success doesn't seem tied to college degrees in my experience. At this point I'd only get a degree if absolutely required by s…
I agree it is acceptable if there is true equality of opportunity. In addition, I also agree that the level of education rarely is a strong indicator of success. If I had to make the choice again I wouldn't go to college and would have just taken online courses for much cheaper. The debt bubble that is going to burst when all of these college students who get unprofitable degrees is going to be a major catalyst in the economy and for the worse.