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Re: Ask HN: Tools or sites you use to scope out a workplace before taking a job?

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I've had people find me on LinkedIn and reach out to do due diligence on companies I've worked at, which I thought was pretty smart. I would do the same if I were looking at a small company with potentially astroturfed Glassdoor ratings.

Yes, if all the spam hadn't driven me to delete my LinkedIn account, I'd do this as well.

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If you're a software engineer (or will work closely w/ engineers), I built Key Values ( https://www.keyvalues.com ) to help w/ this. Before building KV though, my research process included looking for and reading: - the company's career and about us pages - an active blog w/ recent posts (w/in the last 2 months) - LinkedIn / Twitter / GitHub of founders and existing team members (I'd also look for any old blogs writt…

Have you considered adding parameters to the end of the url so selections can be saved and shared?

Re: Ask HN: Tools or sites you use to scope out a workplace before taking a job?

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When I was interviewing a few years ago, one of the interviewers I spoke with mentioned they'd used Mattermark[0] to prospect for companies they might be interested in applying to. That seemed like a novel idea given it seems to be targetted primarily towards investors.

[0]: https://mattermark.com/

Re: Ask HN: Tools or sites you use to scope out a workplace before taking a job?

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Not all bridges have equal value.

To an employer, the employee's track record provides insight on the behavior they can expect from him.

Your track record is what you present. No one is asking for W2s or tax transcripts. There is no central repository you can call upon for employment history (besides the hot garbage that is Equifax's The Work Number; you have frozen your Work Number profile if your employer reports data to them, right?)

https://krebsonsecurity.com/2017/11/how-to-opt-out-of-equifa... (KrebsOnSecurity: How to Opt Out of Equifax Revealing Your Salary History)

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I work at a company of 10.5k employees. Even considering global offices, there are ~5k employees here on campus. The problem is that every single team, organization, every executive and the functions that roll up to them, are of course different. The best advice is what others have said here: go into the interviews bright eyed and try as hard to get a sense of the people who interview. Are they good people? Is there…

> Also, if you're anything like me, I value money quite a bit over other conditions, so asking about salary up front is a must.

This is an important point. I'm not primarily money-driven, personally, so this isn't a question I typically ask. But if it's important to you, absolutely ask.

Not to say money isn't important. I do have a minimum salary that I'll accept, and I inform them of it when they ask (and they always ask). If an employer at least meets that, I'm good. Offering more money above that is nice, but isn't as big of a driver to me as whether or not I would enjoy working there.

Re: Ask HN: Tools or sites you use to scope out a workplace before taking a job?

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You can (sometimes) use GitHub to figure out if the company has bad work/life balance, e.g. if you see lots of employees committing code on the weekend on the same dates: https://codewithoutrules.com/2019/01/31/does-company-have-wo...

You'd just end up mistaking commits to my private repositories for work. Also, private contributions have to be enabled in order to show up there.

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

The lying about the crisis is the part that I was referencing was shady. Working as a consultant for a previous employer is completely acceptable and provides mutual benefit.

Crisis story can be looked at as advertising or setting the table. You leave your old company with a reason and everyone feels better. Your image is safe and your backstory. If anyone feels like this is dishonest what do you tell your new employer about why you are truly leaving the old position. Do you tell them the owner was rude and you told him off or do you say you left because of a bad personality fit? You are…

> Crisis story can be looked at as advertising or setting the table.

I'm sorry, it's simply bald-faced lying. If I found out any of my hires had done this, I'd fire them.

> what do you tell your new employer about why you are truly leaving the old position.

I rarely need to tell them anything, but if they ask, I say "I'm seeking new challenges". It's not a lie, and it avoids potentially bad-mouthing prior employers. But I'll be honest here -- it's only happened twice in my career that I left a job because of something bad about the job.

Re: Ask HN: Tools or sites you use to scope out a workplace before taking a job?

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Crunchbase to get current and former founders/execs, last rounds etc. Company website for investor relations page if exists, SEC and regulatory filings to get financials, technology roadmaps, prospectuses, etc. Then avoid pinging anyone on linkedin other than to find who the core informal network that runs the company is. Find out: 1. Revenue and runway before next funding round or profitability. This trumps all in p…

Great advice here, thanks.

Re: Ask HN: Tools or sites you use to scope out a workplace before taking a job?

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> Do you email people who work there?

No. They'll rarely tell you anything useful because they'd risk their job.

Focus on former employees instead if you really must. (And only stick to recent ones if you do, because companies change.) But IMHO you don't actually need to do this nowadays.

> Do you just jump in and hope for the best?

Absolutely not.

At the very least check out their website, their execs, and your future boss. Google whoever you think is relevant and check their respective LinkedIn profiles, blogs, social media, etc.

Even more importantly, pay attention to any hints of company culture or technical red flags during interviews. Ask soft questions as you run into them to keep the interview process flowing; and dig deeper when you're in the negotiation phase.

> Are there apps or sites you like?

Glassdoor was interesting in the past. It still is, but there's a strong sampling bias and a lot of astroturfing. IMHO it's mostly useful to check for recurring, obvious red flags. YMMV.

CrunchBase is sort of useful to get funding data -- when it's accurate. (IMHO you're better off asking this type of data point blank during the interviews.) The important bit here is how they'll approach things like risk taking and technical debt, as already noted in an excellent sibling answer.

AngelList and LinkedIn are useful to get a feel of who the execs and your future boss are. Personally I wouldn't touch a company whose exec team is all 20-somethings with a 10-foot poll. Some youngsters are brilliant but I'd rather see a few adults in the room too. But that's just me...

Google is the most useful tool overall. You'll sometimes be surprised by what comes up when you google some exec's name and go through a few results pages or their social media accounts.

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Last point: don't underestimate the value of this research. If you're going to move to some new location and/or change jobs thinking you're going to stay there for more than a few months, take an afternoon to do this research to avoid getting ugly surprises.

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