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Re: Vim.dev is redirected to Emacs website

#51

Post by gpderetta » Fri, Mar 01, 2019, 5:17 PM UTC

threatofrain wrote: post #50

8draco8 wrote: post #28

Earlier quoted context omitted.

You mean that Google Chrome based editor? Yeah it's cute.

Intellisense, not VSC as an editor, is what's causing the killer popularity. When will emacs get something like intellisense?

Autocomplete (in fact multiple competing implementations) has been available for more than a decade. There are dozens of sources of autocomplete data depending on your language of choice.

The best one I have found for C++ is rtags which uses clang as backend and it is magical when it works. Unfortunately the latency was just high enough to get in the way of my work especially after switching branches and the server being busy reindexing the codebase.

It was more than 3 years ago though, it is probably time to give it another try.

Re: Vim.dev is redirected to Emacs website

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Post by rhizome31 » Fri, Mar 01, 2019, 5:22 PM UTC

jwmjj wrote: post #7

I've never understood these editor wars. Isn't Vim simply a terminal editor, while Emacs is a GUI do-it-all?

As a long time Vim user (oh gosh 18 years already!), to me the Vim vs. Emacs war has always been a lighthearted joke. If there's any real war, it's more between text editors and IDEs.

I've been "attacked" on several occasions by IDE users for using Vim. Not once by an emacs user.

Re: Vim.dev is redirected to Emacs website

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Post by LyndsySimon » Fri, Mar 01, 2019, 5:29 PM UTC

jwmjj wrote: post #7

I've never understood these editor wars. Isn't Vim simply a terminal editor, while Emacs is a GUI do-it-all?

The joke that resonates most with me is: "Emacs can do anything - it's easily one of the most configuration programs ever created, and is practically its own operating system. Unfortunately, it doesn't come with a decent text editor"

In all seriousness, I don't think anyone really takes these things to heart anymore. I picked up Vi because it was on all the systems that I use. Once I began to learn it, i moved to Vim, as most people do. Later, Neovim got to the point that it was a drop-in replacement for me, seemed to be a more viable path for long-term growth given its focus on refactoring the core codebase and explicitly dropping legacy support for some features to that end, and early focus on speed through concurrency.

I'll grouse with emacs users a bit, but honestly... I can't open Vi on someone else's machine and immediately be useful, either. There isn't a huge difference in learning curve for me between "Vi configured by someone else" and "Emacs".

Re: Vim.dev is redirected to Emacs website

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Post by syrrim » Fri, Mar 01, 2019, 5:54 PM UTC

maddyboo wrote: post #32

dbecker wrote: post #16

spaces.dev is still available, in case someone wants to buy it and redirect to something like tabs.com

Someone should register both spaces.dev and tabs.dev, then set them each up to redirect to the other, but only if the HTTP referer is not from the opposing site, to prevent infinite redirects. Then, the only way to access spaces.dev is to navigate to tabs.dev, and vice-versa.

Wouldn't work for people with referers disabled. I wonder if browsers have a max redirect count to prevent looping like this?

Re: Vim.dev is redirected to Emacs website

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Post by mruts » Fri, Mar 01, 2019, 7:04 PM UTC

threatofrain wrote: post #50

8draco8 wrote: post #28

Earlier quoted context omitted.

You mean that Google Chrome based editor? Yeah it's cute.

Intellisense, not VSC as an editor, is what's causing the killer popularity. When will emacs get something like intellisense?

Emacs supports LSP and many many other autocomplete sources.

Re: Vim.dev is redirected to Emacs website

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Post by mruts » Fri, Mar 01, 2019, 7:07 PM UTC

rhizome31 wrote: post #52

jwmjj wrote: post #7

I've never understood these editor wars. Isn't Vim simply a terminal editor, while Emacs is a GUI do-it-all?

As a long time Vim user (oh gosh 18 years already!), to me the Vim vs. Emacs war has always been a lighthearted joke. If there's any real war, it's more between text editors and IDEs. I've been "attacked" on several occasions by IDE users for using Vim. Not once by an emacs user.

If you use emacs or bum, you are part of the cool kids club. If you use an IDE, you might as well be a heretic.

Re: Vim.dev is redirected to Emacs website

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Post by threatofrain » Fri, Mar 01, 2019, 8:51 PM UTC

gpderetta wrote: post #51

threatofrain wrote: post #50

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Intellisense, not VSC as an editor, is what's causing the killer popularity. When will emacs get something like intellisense?

Autocomplete (in fact multiple competing implementations) has been available for more than a decade. There are dozens of sources of autocomplete data depending on your language of choice. The best one I have found for C++ is rtags which uses clang as backend and it is magical when it works. Unfortunately the latency was just high enough to get in the way of my work especially after switching branches and the server b…

I must've named the wrong feature, but I mean VSC's language inference abilities and API. I've been waiting for years for other editors to get something like that. All other editors have something like snippets or autocomplete matching for keywords.

Re: Vim.dev is redirected to Emacs website

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Post by badloginagain » Fri, Mar 01, 2019, 11:38 PM UTC

fka wrote: post #12

An Emacs user bought the vim.dev domain and mistakenly forwarded to the Emacs website while trying to press some key combination using a CAPS LOCK to CTRL mapped keyboard.

Its 2019, You have to map ESC to CAPS now. #MacBookProProblems

Re: Vim.dev is redirected to Emacs website

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Post by canofbars » Sat, Mar 02, 2019, 4:12 AM UTC

ponyous wrote: post #38

kensai wrote: post #34

Can’t stand this war. That’s why I moved to Atom!

Haha, not sure if sarcasm... But how is it affecting you?

I have been using atom for all of 2019. Its been quite terrible. Crashes every now and then, random lagging, cant delete files for some reason (its a reported bug). I have a vim plugin on it and a shortcut sheet on my desk which I am using to migrate to vim later. Others at work use vim and the way they edit text looks like magic.

Re: Vim.dev is redirected to Emacs website

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Post by canofbars » Sat, Mar 02, 2019, 4:19 AM UTC

rhizome31 wrote: post #52

jwmjj wrote: post #7

I've never understood these editor wars. Isn't Vim simply a terminal editor, while Emacs is a GUI do-it-all?

As a long time Vim user (oh gosh 18 years already!), to me the Vim vs. Emacs war has always been a lighthearted joke. If there's any real war, it's more between text editors and IDEs. I've been "attacked" on several occasions by IDE users for using Vim. Not once by an emacs user.

The real war is tabs vs spaces because that choice gets forced on others. Editors don't matter. You pick what you like best.