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Re: Revolut CFO resigns following money laundering controversy

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Out of interest, do you feel so strongly that money laundering should be prevented that you are unwilling to do business with a company that might be not doing enough to prevent it? If not, what is it that Revolut has done according to this article that makes you want to quit?

I'm not the OP, but if you're interested in criticisms of Revolut, here's a complaint/rant letter (yes, physical letter) that I sent to them half a year ago: https://pastebin.com/L507bvf7

Great letter. How did that go, did they reply to your satisfaction?

Re: Revolut CFO resigns following money laundering controversy

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Transferwise charges 0.5% for fx conversions as far as I know.

pretty sure Revolut actually uses transferwise for fx transfers edit: my bad, seems like I'm confused with something else but can't figure out what!

Do you have a source? Because they don't.

Re: Revolut CFO resigns following money laundering controversy

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This kind of exemplifies the classic startup tension between playing by the rules and ignoring the rules for the sake of moving fast, breaking things, and capturing market share. Paul Carr on Uber: " Laws don't exist merely to frustrate the business ambitions of coastal hipsters: They also exist to protect the more vulnerable members of society." https://pando.com/2012/10/24/travis-shrugged/

Or more accurately, they exist to preserve existing monopolies that have lobbied for regulatory barriers to market entry.

Unfortunately, they exist for both reasons, one of which we want and one of which we don't, and I have thus far not found a good way to disentangle the two.

Re: Revolut CFO resigns following money laundering controversy

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I couldn't care less about being downvoted, but would love to hear your opinion as to why you disagree with what I wrote. Otherwise I have to assume you're in the pay of Russia.

Is it not possible that this person just disagreed with your logic, conclusion, or both, and did not want to comment? I find this to be a quite cynical and paranoid take on being downvoted in this case.

So we just go around downvoting comments we don't agree with?

Paranoid? Really?

Edit: Also, I asked dude to explain to me. He/she is free to do so, I was genuinely curious. But also, yes, I am cynical when it comes to the Russian mob. I mean government.

Re: Revolut CFO resigns following money laundering controversy

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"It follows a report by the bank to the FCA and National Crime Agency last year in which it warned both organisations of suspected money laundering through its app. The digital bank has suffered a number of departures from its compliance team in the past two years, including two chief risk officers, the chief compliance officer, and two money laundering reporting officers." I don't believe the Russian CEO could be in…

"I don't believe the Russian CEO could be involved in, complicit in, or just turning a blind eye to, laundering, in any way whatsoever, so clearly this was just a stupid decision entirely on the part of the CFO to turn off the monitors due to their excessive chatter." Oh, why couldn't you possibly believe this?

Hilarious that my only two comments I ever remember being downvoted on HN are for calling out this companies ties to people who launder money and evade taxes.

Re: Revolut CFO resigns following money laundering controversy

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I started with Monzo but switched to Revolut, and I can say Monzo is not light years ahead at all.

The people of London will have to disagree with you. Monzo has won the war there.

Well I see more people around me in London with a Revolut card than a Monzo card. And I can't blame them, Revolut is much better!

Re: Revolut CFO resigns following money laundering controversy

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This kind of exemplifies the classic startup tension between playing by the rules and ignoring the rules for the sake of moving fast, breaking things, and capturing market share. Paul Carr on Uber: " Laws don't exist merely to frustrate the business ambitions of coastal hipsters: They also exist to protect the more vulnerable members of society." https://pando.com/2012/10/24/travis-shrugged/

Or more accurately, they exist to preserve existing monopolies that have lobbied for regulatory barriers to market entry.

This is where we have to say, "It depends." Laws that throw up barriers to selling drugs without expensive testing and jumping through regulatory hoops are not there just to protect the profits of Big Pharma.

But some laws definitely exist to perpetuate crony capitalism. See the rules that make it nearly impossible to start a new bank in Canada.

And some laws exist to protect consumers from entrepreneurs that move fast and break the lives of people who trust them. See the history of banking before there were laws restricting banks. Note that these are the same laws, performing different purposes at different times.

This touches on Chesterton's Fence: It might be a good idea to remove a lot of the regulation around banking in Canada, but not without understanding all of the problems that those laws were designed to fix, and making sure that whatever replaces those laws serves the same purpose.

All-too-often, we hear "We no longer need that protection, circumstances have changed." This is often naïve, as the reason circumstances have changed is the presence of those outdated laws. Remove them, and we revert back to the circumstances that led us to create the laws in the first place.

Re: Revolut CFO resigns following money laundering controversy

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Revolut is the only bank I know of that does free fx conversions, it's a huge feature and money saver for people that have bank accounts in different countries and currencies.

> Revolut is the only bank I know of that does free fx conversions, it's a huge feature and money saver for people that have bank accounts in different countries and currencies. Try TransferWise borderless.

TransferWise charges a small fee even for conversions within their Borderless account.

In the Revolut app, I can convert, for example, EUR>USD>EUR (on a weekday; they tack on an additional 0.5% or so on weekends) and maybe lose a cent in the process.

Re: Revolut CFO resigns following money laundering controversy

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Yeah, real blessing for travelling it seems - for last 2 years, every time we travel somewhere, we meet somebody (young, from Europe) who has some issues withdrawing money/paying with Revolut. Wasting hours running around town finding which ATM/branch would work with some obscure semi-bank account. It has its benefits, but travelling around the world currently doesn't seem like one.

I travel quite a lot and I've had a few problems paying with the Revolut card, but not more than with my traditional bank credit cards (for example a few years ago, my card from a normal bank wouldn't work in Qatar, to this day I don't know why). I have learned on my own skin that travelling with a single card is not a good idea. I always have two (plus some hard cash just in case). But Revolut has became my first ch…

Completely standard in the US... I am surprised that's legal that they're not charging you for that (since it likely means they're not paying the restaurant that money)

Re: Revolut CFO resigns following money laundering controversy

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"It follows a report by the bank to the FCA and National Crime Agency last year in which it warned both organisations of suspected money laundering through its app. The digital bank has suffered a number of departures from its compliance team in the past two years, including two chief risk officers, the chief compliance officer, and two money laundering reporting officers." I don't believe the Russian CEO could be in…

"I don't believe the Russian CEO could be involved in, complicit in, or just turning a blind eye to, laundering, in any way whatsoever, so clearly this was just a stupid decision entirely on the part of the CFO to turn off the monitors due to their excessive chatter." Oh, why couldn't you possibly believe this?

If I had to guess, parent is sarcastic.
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