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Re: LineageOS 16.0

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Post by _ea1k »

fro0116 wrote: post #33

I'd personally love to see a ROM that focuses less on customizations and adding their own "flavor" to Android, and just attempts to track AOSP as closely as possible while supporting as many devices as possible, so users whose devices are no longer supported by their manufactures (or who just don't like the customizations the manufacturers have made to the UX) can continue enjoying the latest Android improvements in…

As logical as your request is, I feel like it is basically an impossible ask. Any ROM with a sufficiently large community to support a large number of devices will also have contributers who want to add their favorite feature. And how will you say no to key device maintainers?

If I'm not mistaken, there are a decent number of small projects that just rebuild AOSP, with little real momentum behind them.

Re: LineageOS 16.0

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Post by muks »

Arkanosis wrote: post #49
lsh wrote: post #31

Earlier quoted context omitted.

the new (and cheap) Xiaomi Note 5 Pro (Whyred) was dropped in October last year after about a year of support. I bought the phone specifically because it was supported. It sucks, but they depend on volunteers to keep the builds happening. There are plenty of unofficial builds now happening but nobody appears to have stepped up for official status. The phone was originally marketed to India and gets a lot of usage the…

I bought the same phone… I think it hasn't even been supported for one year, maybe six months, maybe even less. I'm willing to build Lineage myself for it when I find the time for it (the amount of stuff you have to download to build an Android distro is completely crazy), but I'm just wondering… why aren't unofficial builds official? Is there anything that makes it difficult, or do people just not care?

I can give you a link to download my build if you want (which is a pristine unofficial build with Android security patches till February 5, 2019), but in the end, it depends on whether you'll trust a binary build from some random person: https://mukund.org/tmp/lineage-15.1-20190214-UNOFFICIAL-whyr...

It is neither difficult nor very slow to build it from source, but it can do with a fast internet link (~fiber speeds) as the build process initially clones from several git repositories (but later syncs just fetch the changes which is very fast). Unfortunately not everyone has access to fiber.

With fiber, the clone and build ought to complete in about a day depending on your machine's performance. I recommend that you build your own (let the initial build run in the background even if it takes more than a day to finish). If you do it once and use the built OS, you'll not search again.

Re: LineageOS 16.0

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Post by flyinghamster »

JansjoFromIkea wrote: post #56

One thing I've tried to find for a few years but couldn't was a version of Android that focuses on being offline as much as possible. A stable build that allows the installation of APKs and can receive calls but has no wifi and (to the greatest extent possible) is incapable of internet access. A phone with no wifi and no built in browser would probably suffice, you could then control which apps you can access by whic…

The easy way is just to turn off both Wi-Fi and mobile data, either by using specific toggles or by switching to airplane mode.

Note that in airplane mode, it will shut off Wi-Fi, but you can turn it back on.

Re: LineageOS 16.0

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Post by xvf22 »

voltagex_ wrote: post #60
INTPenis wrote: post #43

Earlier quoted context omitted.

This question came up the other day in #lineageos@freenode. My reading of that is that there are a lot of good options but the most common issue is that they're EOL or becoming EOL. And this might not be an issue for everyone but fact is that in my own circle of friends I know of three Nexus 5X phones that have died to hw failure. And one that is acting strange. But I personally still have my old 5x with LineageOS an…

Isn't the 5X in the same line of phones affected by the LG bootloop issues? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/LG_smartphone_bootloop_issues#...

Yup, had the same one. I disabled the big cores and it "fixed" it for a long time but then it started looping again. Then did a reflow and it fixed it for a month before it died for good. I was really hoping to keep that phone around as a cross border phone.

Re: LineageOS 16.0

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Post by joelthelion »

ptman wrote: post #47
IloveHN84 wrote: post #4

I would like to see a commercial phone with LineageOS in Europe, that's fairly cheap. But vendors are pushing now for 2000€ phones none needs because they can fold

I have high hopes for cheaper Nokia (HMD) phones. Like 6.1, https://www.gsmarena.com/nokia_6_1-8972.php . LineageOS doesn't seem to support it yet, but aosp does: https://downloads.aospextended.com/PL2

I think OP would like a phone sold with Lineage. That's what I'd like as well: officially supported, on warranty, with guaranteed updates.

Re: LineageOS 16.0

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Post by juliangoldsmith »

Ao7bei3s wrote: post #25
_bxg1 wrote: post #10

Earlier quoted context omitted.

OnePlus seems to be a favored line for Lineage. You'll notice that the One, a 5(!) year old phone, is still on the initial-adopters list for 16.0. The 3T, two years old, has 6GB ram and still stands with the latest flagships in terms of raw power. The whole line is known for being really easy to put ROMs onto and being a great bang for your buck, and in theory any concerns about Chinese software would go away given t…

On the other hand, the latest two OnePlus phones (6 and 6T), the older of which was released 9 months ago, still aren't supported. (Apparently the reason is LineageOS' lack of / in-development state of A/B partition support which would enable safer upgrades.)

I've been using one of z3ntu's builds of Lineage 16.0 on the OP6 for quite a while, and it's worked pretty well for me.

I'm somewhat surprised they aren't including the OP6 in the initial supported devices, but there could be lingering bugs with hardware. (Blurry photos, for instance.)

Re: LineageOS 16.0

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Post by trissi »

ptman wrote: post #47
IloveHN84 wrote: post #4

I would like to see a commercial phone with LineageOS in Europe, that's fairly cheap. But vendors are pushing now for 2000€ phones none needs because they can fold

I have high hopes for cheaper Nokia (HMD) phones. Like 6.1, https://www.gsmarena.com/nokia_6_1-8972.php . LineageOS doesn't seem to support it yet, but aosp does: https://downloads.aospextended.com/PL2

Nokia has no bootloader unlocking, except for the Nokia 8 and the have publicly stated they don't plan to add new devices to the unlock program.

Some older devices are supported through some weird unofficial sites where you have to send in your IMEI, which is obviously shady...

Also they don't update their kernel sources in a timely manner at all. Which makes developing custom ROMs WAY harder..

So sadly, Nokia sucks if you wan't custom ROMs, I ditched my Nokia 8 for a Poco F1 for this reason.

Re: LineageOS 16.0

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Post by OJFord »

IloveHN84 wrote: post #7
kbenson wrote: post #3

So, if I wanted to buy a good middle of the road (or even somewhat cheap) phone that has good LineageOS support, what would the community (of LineageOS or HN) recommend? I looked on /r/LineageOS and found some older posts (a year plus) that claim to give some insight on this. Those might still be fairly accurate, but the same conditions that would cause me to need a guide also mean I wouldn't know if one is still acc…

You can go for a Wileyfox or a Motorola G series. My gf had a G2 with Android 6 but it ran LineageOS beautifully up to the latest version without any issue

Wileyfox is in administration, any hardware sold is old stock and not supported.

Re: LineageOS 16.0

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Post by JansjoFromIkea »

flyinghamster wrote: post #83
JansjoFromIkea wrote: post #56

One thing I've tried to find for a few years but couldn't was a version of Android that focuses on being offline as much as possible. A stable build that allows the installation of APKs and can receive calls but has no wifi and (to the greatest extent possible) is incapable of internet access. A phone with no wifi and no built in browser would probably suffice, you could then control which apps you can access by whic…

The easy way is just to turn off both Wi-Fi and mobile data, either by using specific toggles or by switching to airplane mode. Note that in airplane mode, it will shut off Wi-Fi, but you can turn it back on.

Nah man, you're misunderstanding. I mean a phone in which the OS does not give the user the option to access stuff. This is a self-restraint thing and there's a (small) market right now for phones that can only do basic functionality (i.e. message, call, address book and maybe an alarm), it seems to me that it _should_ be possible to permanently disable wifi on an Android ROM, and potentially (although probably much less likely) make data almost impossible to use.

It's far easier to not be tempted by something you have no immediate means of accessing than something that's a toggle away.

Re: LineageOS 16.0

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Post by JansjoFromIkea »

slezyr wrote: post #69
JansjoFromIkea wrote: post #56

One thing I've tried to find for a few years but couldn't was a version of Android that focuses on being offline as much as possible. A stable build that allows the installation of APKs and can receive calls but has no wifi and (to the greatest extent possible) is incapable of internet access. A phone with no wifi and no built in browser would probably suffice, you could then control which apps you can access by whic…

Just install AFWall+ or NetGuard from F-Droid and set that only whitelisted apps allowed to connect. I don't see a need to create separate mod for this.

I haven't used these, but the problem here being that the user who can set up a whitelist will (presumably) be just as easily able to edit the whitelist.

Along with that I've had issues in the past with whitelists where I disabled something where the IP address wound up being a dependency for something else I was using.

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