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California's San Bernardino County restricts construction of solar, wind farms

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Re: California's San Bernardino County restricts construction of solar, wind farms

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San Bernardino County is home to the Ivanpah Solar Power Facility [1], which is a mirror-focused solar thermal power plant. It generates a lot of glare and is controversial for its impact on animals. It also took several years to ramp up to its promised output. Solar panels don't have problem with glare, but the landscape of the county has large viewsheds of sloping treeless desert, so any facility will have a large…

I grew up in San Bernardino County and never knew about this valuable info, thanks internet stranger!

Re: California's San Bernardino County restricts construction of solar, wind farms

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post #54

San Bernardino County is home to the Ivanpah Solar Power Facility [1], which is a mirror-focused solar thermal power plant. It generates a lot of glare and is controversial for its impact on animals. It also took several years to ramp up to its promised output. Solar panels don't have problem with glare, but the landscape of the county has large viewsheds of sloping treeless desert, so any facility will have a large…

> Ivanpah Solar Power Facility Blew my mind when I drove past that (on the way to Las Vegas?). I swear it appeared as though the air was incandescing at the top of the tower where all the sun's rays were focused. Def something out of a Sci-Fi film....

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Re: California's San Bernardino County restricts construction of solar, wind farms

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post #54

San Bernardino County is home to the Ivanpah Solar Power Facility [1], which is a mirror-focused solar thermal power plant. It generates a lot of glare and is controversial for its impact on animals. It also took several years to ramp up to its promised output. Solar panels don't have problem with glare, but the landscape of the county has large viewsheds of sloping treeless desert, so any facility will have a large…

> Ivanpah Solar Power Facility Blew my mind when I drove past that (on the way to Las Vegas?). I swear it appeared as though the air was incandescing at the top of the tower where all the sun's rays were focused. Def something out of a Sci-Fi film....

Or perhaps Fallout: New Vegas....

Re: California's San Bernardino County restricts construction of solar, wind farms

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> “These vast open areas are precious for their natural, historical and recreational qualities. But they are fragile, and no amount of mitigation can counter the damage that industrial-scale renewable energy projects would cause,” Fairchild told the supervisors. “Once destroyed, these landscapes can never be brought back.” Because climate change won't destroy precious fragile landscapes? Okay, here's my deal: you get…

From the article: > The policy approved by the supervisors prohibits utility-oriented renewable energy projects — defined as projects that would mostly serve out-of-town utility customers, rather than local power needs — within the boundaries of Community Plans that have been adopted by more than a dozen unincorporated towns. It doesn't seem like they're opposing local renewable energy. They're opposing renewable ene…

Your comment should be somewhere on top or in the beginning of the article. It completely changes the outlook on this community and it's a shame one has to dig down this far to find this out.

Argueably a very legitimate stance on the part of the community.

Re: California's San Bernardino County restricts construction of solar, wind farms

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Wide open rural land, little environmental or people impact, some of the best consistent sun in the world

Do you live in this community? My guess is no. And that’s the crux of the issue, though the article buries the lede somewhat.

Re: California's San Bernardino County restricts construction of solar, wind farms

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post #97

Earlier quoted context omitted.

How far does the does spread? How long until it settles?

This is a combine in a dry soybean field. https://youtu.be/PKBENzzEluY Now imagine a lot more vehicle traffic in a desert. I know lumber companies will spray water on dirt roads to keep the dust down, not sure if that’s a viable option out in a desert though.

That might explain the dust during construction.

What about a week after construction finishes. How about 10 years later?

Re: California's San Bernardino County restricts construction of solar, wind farms

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

The desert isn't a blank sandscape. There's a whole ecosystem of desert plants and creatures, not to mention the solar panels killing migratory birds.

This gets to a conflict of values between different environmentalists - a lot of people are willing to accept local environmental damage in order to counter climate change.

The people willing to accept “local” environmental change are not local, are they? Let’s be honest, coastal liberals want to build solar in the desert so they can charge their Teslas with a clear conscience. The people actually living there resent this. It’s the same dynamic that’s been playing out for over a century between urban and rural CA as regards water.
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