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Re: $35,000 Tesla Model 3 Available Now

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Especially if the range limit continues to be imposed only by the car's software.

From what I was told at the dealer, the software range limit was only on the Model S produced during a certain span of time and now all long-range Teslas have larger batteries than their stock counterparts.

There was an X too and a second different Model S with it.

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Disagree. Electric vehicles have a very different cost structure than gas vehicles. For vast majority of buyers this will be their first electric vehicle and market education needs to be done. There's 90+ years of gas vehicle culture education to un-do here. Total Cost of Ownership is a legit (and even preferred) way to represent cost in most industries. It's just not common in consumer purchasing. This is a variant…

The price of the car is X. You don't get to SUBTRACT the cost of gas from X. You can compare X to some other car's (Y + Gas).

If you put an asterisk by it you can

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Interesting to learn they've been artificially handicapping the range, speed and top power via software until now. "We’re also excited to announce that we’re implementing a number of firmware upgrades for both new and existing customers. These upgrades will increase the range of the Long Range Rear-Wheel Drive Model 3 to 325 miles, increase the top speed of Model 3 Performance to 162 mph, and add an average of approx…

It is possible that they were being conservative because they were afraid of degradation of batteries. Over time, with more data coming in, perhaps they decided that it wasn't necessary. It's not really such a surprise that the limit all of those things -- I think that's necessary for the correct operation of the vehicle. It's just a matter of where you put that limit and why.

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"This is 2019," he said. "People want to buy things online." But he added that franchise-dealer opposition would be a violation of interstate commerce, and that is unconstitutional. "Good luck with that," Musk said. Sounds like Musk likes to pick and choose the laws he follows. Source: https://www.businessinsider.com/tesla-is-eliminating-most-of...

Middlemen help you buy a car from competing dealers. Buying only from Tesla means you can’t negotiate for a better price.

Dealers are stupid and make no sense.

I may be a weird consumer but whenever I buy something expensive I always think about the unrelated things my money is paying for. So for example when I visit a car dealership I notice the big land footprint, the shiny offices, and well dressed salespeople—and I think to myself how much of my car purchase is going towards the upkeep of this crap, none of which I like or want.

If I want to learn about the car, I'd much rather access the manufacturer's website and read/watch independent reviews.

If I want to test drive a car I'd be willing to travel further to test drive one directly from the manufacturer. Or better still, just don't test drive it at all—you won't learn anything in an hour that you couldn't learn from a reviewer. The true character of a car usually takes a week or more to surface.

If I want to buy a car, I'd much rather buy it directly from the manufacturer and either pick it up from a central depot (to save money) or have it delivered directly to my home and detailed on my driveway (for a fee based on distance).

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Put the car on a truck and then drive the truck? Might as well just drive the car?

The beautiful thing about trucks is...you can put _multiple_ cars on the truck.

Handy if you're buying multiple cars.

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"This is 2019," he said. "People want to buy things online." But he added that franchise-dealer opposition would be a violation of interstate commerce, and that is unconstitutional. "Good luck with that," Musk said. Sounds like Musk likes to pick and choose the laws he follows. Source: https://www.businessinsider.com/tesla-is-eliminating-most-of...

Middlemen help you buy a car from competing dealers. Buying only from Tesla means you can’t negotiate for a better price.

I always thought it was weird that we negotiate a price with new car purchases. I do negotiate hard on my cars (and on behalf of family) and I hate the process. It's stupid. I'd much rather the manufacturer nominate a fixed price and not allow any negotiation at all. Then the manufacturer would be forced to pick a price that competes with the market.

There are only a few things that excite me more about a Model 3 than electric cars from established brands (particularly the upcoming Kia Niro EV) and a big one is the sales process.

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Rent it for a couple days on Turo. I did that recently with a Model 3 just to try it out.

A friend did this one year. He sold his old car, commuted to work on public transit M-F, and rented a different car every weekend, whether he felt like driving somewhere or not. Rentals are cheaper on the weekend, and he got to try all sorts of cars. He started with the ones he was most interested in buying, but since he was for ing himself to rent different things, he tried convertibles, sub-sub-compacts, minivans,…

What did he end up buying?

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It's cheap in NorCal - my friend had a Model 3 delivered by a dude. Literally. A dude drove his car to his house and then called Uber. P.S. by "dude" I meant that the man just drove the car to the owner's place from their Fremont factory (30 min).

What would it have been if not a dude?

The car driving itself?

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“Courageous” If anyone has ever had to cancel a car sale you’ll realize how much of a hassle it truely is to “return a car” Your credit report will show a loan even after it’s been cancelled for weeks. I once cancelled financing for a car due to it not being as described. Started looking for a new car and found it. Got denied for a loan because my score showed a 60k loan with 0 payments made. It took almost 2 months…

I would be happy to be given this chance in Europe, I would order right now, but at double the price and limited availability we have other problems to deal with.

Before this announcement, the pricing wasn't double. It was only a few thousand more, at least in Germany, after considering tax.
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