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Re: $35,000 Tesla Model 3 Available Now

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Post by natch »

sjm-yc-acct wrote: post #451
natch wrote: post #249

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I see how it’s a joke. Looks almost exactly like an old Camry.

In all seriousness, and hopefully more constructively--there really is a lot to like about the Tesla Model 3. We have been looking for a new car for a while, and we did consider the Model 3. I just wish they had retained some more of the instrumentation/controls like the speedometer in front of the driver. I've been thinking about this more tonight and in a way, the clean minimalistic interior design of the Model 3 i…

Maybe you could do some Rasberry Pi projects to add the dials you want. One guy on reddit wanted to add an audio box to do fake engine noises. Cringe, but to each their own.

Re: $35,000 Tesla Model 3 Available Now

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Post by sunstone »

vvanders wrote: post #408
eMSF wrote: post #386

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Not really. Oil changes (in a car comparable in size to Model 3) cost me about 50 USD per 25000 km, or 15000 mi, indeed because the oil is synthetic and fulfills certain criteria. In any case it's a rather insignificant amount compared to fuel costs, especially with fuel taxes as they are. If oil change costs start to add up, there's a significant possibility of you doing something wrong (including the choice of vehi…

Well first off I'd probably never run a 15k interval. Pretty sure that's beyond mfgr spec. We run 7k in our diesel on full synthetic. Stretching a maintenance interval seems pennywise and pound foolish. You also have to consider how much your time is worth of you're changing it yourself to get that cost. Either way it's an added cost(along with transmission, differentials, etc) that you just don't incur on EVs. Right…

On my 2017 Prius oil changes are every 16000 km at the dealership.

Re: $35,000 Tesla Model 3 Available Now

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Post by GhostVII »

CydeWeys wrote: post #9

Interesting to point out that the $35k is the full price, which goes down when additional discounts are applied. If you get the short range model with no options, it starts out at $35k, then goes down all the way to $24,950 after including the $3,750 Federal tax credit, $2,000 New York EV rebate (clearly it's geolocating by IP address here), and "$4,300 estimated 6 year gas savings". OK, so that last bit is BS, and i…

Including the estimated gas savings is extremely misleading. I want to know how much the car will cost upfront, not how much I will save over some number of years.

And how do they determine the savings? If I am cross-shopping with a Chevy bolt, there won't be any gas savings... Surprised they put that on their, it really negatively impact my view of Tesla.

Re: $35,000 Tesla Model 3 Available Now

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Post by m463 »

greglindahl wrote: post #353
m463 wrote: post #168

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The giant ipad is fine for people who don't want to drive, but for people who enjoy driving, an immersive experience is important. I think the people who want the performance version should get a dashboard, or the option of one. I'll bet a $3000 optional dashboard would sell like hotcackes.

I like driving, and I also love having a large map on the screen when I’m driving in an unfamiliar area. The extra context is very helpful.

I don't see why you can't have both.

Re: $35,000 Tesla Model 3 Available Now

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Post by GhostVII »

TheSmiddy wrote: post #86
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Absolutely - I made a comment a few years ago around the Model S pricing when they compared it to a E or S class Mercedes. The base price of a given vehicle is $35k, and then I'd spend either $1500/yr on fuel and maintenance o, or $500/yr on fuel and maintenance if it's - for example - electric, on top the of the base price. Spending $1000 less per year does not magically mean the car is now $34k. If anything, the pr…

buying a $35,000 Tesla has the equivalent cost of ownership of buying a $26,950 ICE car. It's not a massive amount of mental gymnastics. I definitely don't agree with Teslas practices of framing it that way, I'd rather they just show cost of ownership comparisons across a variety of cars. Especially since they can't even meet the demand they currently have, why resort to shady practices?

Except you are probably cross shopping with a Chevy volt (which also has $0 gas cost). You could use the same logic to justify lowering the listed price of a Prius because it uses less gas than an SUV.

Re: $35,000 Tesla Model 3 Available Now

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Post by cma »

CydeWeys wrote: post #9

Interesting to point out that the $35k is the full price, which goes down when additional discounts are applied. If you get the short range model with no options, it starts out at $35k, then goes down all the way to $24,950 after including the $3,750 Federal tax credit, $2,000 New York EV rebate (clearly it's geolocating by IP address here), and "$4,300 estimated 6 year gas savings". OK, so that last bit is BS, and i…

Is there sales tax?

Re: $35,000 Tesla Model 3 Available Now

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Post by grogenaut »

gwbas1c wrote: post #426
donarb wrote: post #404

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Middlemen help you buy a car from competing dealers. Buying only from Tesla means you can’t negotiate for a better price.

The US is the only country that follows this scheme, and it's only certain manufacturers that let their franchises get away with that. Next time try buying a Honda or a Subaru. There's almost no wiggle-room in price.

I kicked 5k off of the deal price a subaru forrester 2 years ago, by saying no 3 times. No trade either.

Re: $35,000 Tesla Model 3 Available Now

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Post by m463 »

mikeash wrote: post #204
m463 wrote: post #168

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The giant ipad is fine for people who don't want to drive, but for people who enjoy driving, an immersive experience is important. I think the people who want the performance version should get a dashboard, or the option of one. I'll bet a $3000 optional dashboard would sell like hotcackes.

What’s immersive about having a bunch of dials and gauges in front of you?

I've driven the model 3 and the model S (which both present the same information).

I think the dashboard of the model S puts good information in your line of sight. In comparison, using the model 3 display seems a little like trying to use your cellphone while driving.

As to dials and guages, I'm not trying to pin it down to that. Just driving information in your line of sight.

I could also say a HUD would be cool too. I've actually spent some time in military aircraft simulators with actual hardware huds, and I can tell you that it draws you in.

But who knows, I might be one of those people bemoaning the new "iphone gadget" and it's lack of a keyboard :)

Re: $35,000 Tesla Model 3 Available Now

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Post by gscott »

BoorishBears wrote: post #176
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This is very good advice to keep in mind, but it's not Tesla's fault if the credit reporting agencies are terrible.

I think they both deserve credit, in reality returning a 30 thousand dollar object is never going to be smooth. The finance has already written you a check, they’ve already done all this leg work. You’ve already driven it, if you’re purchasing it in earnest you might have already invested in charging infrastructure for your home, a whole laundry list of friction. Then there’s what happens to the car you returned. I w…

They probably just reset the miles to zero. No one would know.

Re: $35,000 Tesla Model 3 Available Now

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Post by leesec »

GhostVII wrote: post #493
CydeWeys wrote: post #9

Interesting to point out that the $35k is the full price, which goes down when additional discounts are applied. If you get the short range model with no options, it starts out at $35k, then goes down all the way to $24,950 after including the $3,750 Federal tax credit, $2,000 New York EV rebate (clearly it's geolocating by IP address here), and "$4,300 estimated 6 year gas savings". OK, so that last bit is BS, and i…

Including the estimated gas savings is extremely misleading. I want to know how much the car will cost upfront, not how much I will save over some number of years. And how do they determine the savings? If I am cross-shopping with a Chevy bolt, there won't be any gas savings... Surprised they put that on their, it really negatively impact my view of Tesla.

Did you look at the site?

It lists 35k up front, and then lists estimated payment after incentive secondary.

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