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I'd rather use my own cellphone plan & wifi than pay for that kind of stuff indirectly.
If the car supported carplay or android auto, this argument would make sense.
Wait, Teslas don't have either of those...?
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#412It currently costs about $2.50 to manufacture a battery cell. There are 7,700 cells in a standard battery pack. That’s $19,250 in cells before battery pack assembly. I don’t know how they are making money on this. I’m inclined to believe they’re losing money, or someone is somewhere in the line. Maybe they expect those battery costs to decline rapidly in the near future? What do you think?
Correction:
7,100 for 85kw, and 8,250 in the 100kw Model S
And it looks like 4,400 in the Model 3
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#413This is amazing. Kudos team Tesla. You have reached here against tall odds and severe cynicism.
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#414Earlier quoted context omitted.
“Courageous” If anyone has ever had to cancel a car sale you’ll realize how much of a hassle it truely is to “return a car” Your credit report will show a loan even after it’s been cancelled for weeks. I once cancelled financing for a car due to it not being as described. Started looking for a new car and found it. Got denied for a loan because my score showed a 60k loan with 0 payments made. It took almost 2 months…
if you are financing an (entry level) luxury car, you are doing something wrong.
How so? The loan on my BMW is 1.9%, which is lower than returns in savings/investments.
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#416So good to see Elon making it happen despite a full court press against him in the media, likely financed by the saudis and other oil interests, and hedge funds who betting against him
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So now we have to pay for test drives?
1. $37,100 Tesla with a free one hour dealership test drive. 2. $35,000 Tesla plus a $100 rental payment for a 24 hour test drive. You honestly prefer the first option?
If you want to try a bunch of cars since you are undecided you might pay extra compared to now, since other brands won’t give you a discount and you still paid for the Tesla test drive.
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#418Earlier quoted context omitted.
“Courageous” If anyone has ever had to cancel a car sale you’ll realize how much of a hassle it truely is to “return a car” Your credit report will show a loan even after it’s been cancelled for weeks. I once cancelled financing for a car due to it not being as described. Started looking for a new car and found it. Got denied for a loan because my score showed a 60k loan with 0 payments made. It took almost 2 months…
> "financing for a car" ... "ding your credit score" To my mind the mere fact that someone would borrow money at all to buy _a car_ is a huge red flag against their creditworthiness / financial responsibility. But I keep reading online that people who otherwise seem pretty sensible do this as a matter of course. Is it possible that living in a city with functioning public transport has sheltered me to the point of na…
If you’re objecting to having a car at all... yeah I’d say that’s naivety from only living in a city.
Otherwise I’d say that’s the short sighted financial sense.
I was borrowing at a rate that was barely costing my anything in finance charges and gaining the opportunities having that much cash open for investment or other expenses gives me.
I don’t see a reason to buy a car in cash if you can get a good enough rate...
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I can’t easily find a description of how this partnership works, but I think “Panasonic makes batteries in Tesla’s building, and Tesla packs them together for use in their cars” is a better description. If so, I would expect at least some of that better margin will flow into Panasonic’s pockets (what part, I wouldn’t dare even guess)
The problem is that the battery IP is owned by Tesla at least in part. So its not Panasonic producing Panasonic batteries in a Tesla building but rather its Panasonic building Tesla batteries in Tesla building. Panasonic could not just sell these same batteries to others.
That’s not correct. Panasonic owns the IP for these batteries.
They have a contract with Tesla to produce for them, but Tesla’s demand is so high they can’t produce enough. Production is 24/7. Even if Panasonic wanted to they couldn’t sell to anyone else. I don’t know what kind of price negotiations they have, but current battery production is not profitable. This I know.
Also, Panasonic just partnered with Toyota to produce batteries for all their EV’s.
Additionally, the Gigafactory is just 1 battery production location. Panasonic has many. Some in the USA, and others in Asia. They sell their batteries to many companies. Just not the same ones they’re making for Tesla.
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#420Earlier quoted context omitted.
“Courageous” If anyone has ever had to cancel a car sale you’ll realize how much of a hassle it truely is to “return a car” Your credit report will show a loan even after it’s been cancelled for weeks. I once cancelled financing for a car due to it not being as described. Started looking for a new car and found it. Got denied for a loan because my score showed a 60k loan with 0 payments made. It took almost 2 months…
if you are financing an (entry level) luxury car, you are doing something wrong.
So many people with not enough financial sense parrot this stuff and it’s mind boggling.
This is not the mentality that gives someone good returns on their money so I’m forced to assume people who say it can’t afford the cars they’re talking about.