It's so shady that their advertised price includes some hypothetical "potential gas savings", and the actual price is behind a tiny "learn more" link.
The actual price is literally right there on the screen. Potential gas savings is still a huge selling point to the market they're addressing (maybe not for you or I). I'm not sure this qualifies as "shady" when everything is displayed within the same viewport.
This qualifies as shady. It’s pretty much the definition of shady. Probably just barely legal.
It currently costs about $2.50 to manufacture a battery cell. There are 7,700 cells in a standard battery pack. That’s $19,250 in cells before battery pack assembly. I don’t know how they are making money on this. I’m inclined to believe they’re losing money, or someone is somewhere in the line. Maybe they expect those battery costs to decline rapidly in the near future? What do you think?
It's so shady that their advertised price includes some hypothetical "potential gas savings", and the actual price is behind a tiny "learn more" link.
Always something negative when it comes to Tesla. They finally delivered on their promise of a $35k model 3, which is a monumental achievement, and yet the top comment is about the website.
Haven't seen the desktop site, but on mobile the full price of $35k is clearly visible.
It's so shady that their advertised price includes some hypothetical "potential gas savings", and the actual price is behind a tiny "learn more" link.
Just did some napkin math and the potential gas savings number seems reasonable. (I expected it to be inflated and still think it's a dark pattern to include it.) Model 3: (50 kwh battery) * (0.166 $/kwh for Los Angeles residential power) / (220 mi range) = 3.8 $/100 mi of fuel Average ICE sedan: (3.00 $/gal average regular gas in LA) /(30 mi/gal) = 10 $/100 mi of fuel If you drive 12000 mi in a year, it comes to abo…
That savings also drops to zero if you're coming from another electric vehicle such as a Leaf.
Yes, it is. For Tesla it means, that they made up to their promise given when introducing the Model 3. Tesla has gotten a lot of critique after the Model 3 deliveries where much later than initially expected and the available versions much more expensive then the promised base price. Offering now a Model 3 for that base price should win them a lot of credibility back. For the consumer it means, that the cheapest Tesl…
It’s not the promise I’d signed up for. When I dropped my $2k reservation, it was for a $35,000 car, including a $7500 government rebate, or net $27500 (plus tax lic etc). Instead of delivering my car in the order the reservation was placed, (in that scenario, I’d get the full $7500 rebate), my reservation was reprioritized for Tesla’s bottom line. Would I have done the same thing in Elon’s shoes, sure, but just because they’ve delivered a $35,000 version, doesn’t mean I’m happy.
Wonder how the move to close many of their stores would play out 5 years down the line. Is the idea that now there enough cars out there for people to experience through friends and colleagues? Seems like a very unconventional move (conventional for Tesla).
Also it appears Autopilot is now a $3K add-on (vs $5K previously). And the full self-driving is back at an additional $5K and includes some of the features that previously existed in AP.
It's so shady that their advertised price includes some hypothetical "potential gas savings", and the actual price is behind a tiny "learn more" link.
I agree that it is unnecessary and borderline misleading. They will display the amount you actually have to pay, though.
On the flip side: you don't have to deal with dealerships, which are _much worse_
You just configure the car, give your credit card information, and done. This is unlike most other manufacturers which, even if they do give you a quote, will then hand you off to shady salespeople.
Tesla charges a non-negotiable $1,200 "Destination & doc fee" which in CA is not a fee. It is not state mandated, and is just pure profit for dealerships that charge it (explaining why the amount varies wildly per-dealership).
Google it. It is NOT required anywhere, and all cars I've ever bought, I've gotten the dealership to pay it.