I know this won't happen (well, I'm fairly positive, I should say), but what is foreign response if two, close set nations, such as India and Pakistan should choose to use a nuclear option on each other. Or North Korea and South Korea. Not on anyone else, but just on each other. I realize this is a bit of a naive question, before the criticisms come in, but I'm more curious about answers rather than insults, if you don't mind.
India and Pakistan should stop playing with fire
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Re: India and Pakistan should stop playing with fire
#12India isn't playing with fire. India has a clear no first use policy.
India is playing with fire because Pakistan doesn't have such a policy. If the situation appears dire for Pakistan, the Pakistani Army could resort to using tactical nukes.
Re: India and Pakistan should stop playing with fire
#13Yes indeed! India should pay heed to an opinion hit-piece authored by a citizen of the West with no connection to on-the-ground reality in Indian Kashmir, or India. The truth is patently simple: Pakistan's ISI (it's version of CIA) provides direct financial, logistic, and strategic cover for terrorists who target and kill Indians, routinely. How exactly does any country deal with this? I don't remember the economist…
The truth isnt as simple as you make it out to be. Pakistan was just handed into the control of a new government which seems to be taking a proactive stand with popular measures coming into play.
India is entering into election terms which could be the reason these tensions are escalating. Both countries using this to further their own political agendas. India crossed the Line of Control, Pakistan shot down and captured pilots. And just announced the release of said pilot(s). It seems that Pakistan has no interest in playing with fire, although they are confident in dealing with any threat that comes their way. Indias current government seems more interested in playing this game and spurring nationalistic fervor since that particular regime has a very real interest in getting reelected.
Both countries have intelligence agencies that probably fund terrorist camps. So blaming just one country is highly misguided.
But yes i agree with you, its very easy for outsiders to cheaply throw words in an article without deeply researching whats actually happening.
Re: India and Pakistan should stop playing with fire
#14I know this won't happen (well, I'm fairly positive, I should say), but what is foreign response if two, close set nations, such as India and Pakistan should choose to use a nuclear option on each other. Or North Korea and South Korea. Not on anyone else, but just on each other. I realize this is a bit of a naive question, before the criticisms come in, but I'm more curious about answers rather than insults, if you d…
The Korean Peninsula conflict is different. The US keeps soldiers there to make sure that any conflict started by N. Korea is also an explicit attack on the US. So nuking US soldiers would likely mean getting nuked in return.
On a side note, this agreement is likely all that keeps S. Korea, Japan, and Taiwan from deploying their own nuclear weapons.
Re: India and Pakistan should stop playing with fire
#15I know this won't happen (well, I'm fairly positive, I should say), but what is foreign response if two, close set nations, such as India and Pakistan should choose to use a nuclear option on each other. Or North Korea and South Korea. Not on anyone else, but just on each other. I realize this is a bit of a naive question, before the criticisms come in, but I'm more curious about answers rather than insults, if you d…
The key is to read up on something called "Nuclear Winter". The impact of the next nuclear conflict is likely to be felt much more broadly than just across a single border.
Re: India and Pakistan should stop playing with fire
#16I know this won't happen (well, I'm fairly positive, I should say), but what is foreign response if two, close set nations, such as India and Pakistan should choose to use a nuclear option on each other. Or North Korea and South Korea. Not on anyone else, but just on each other. I realize this is a bit of a naive question, before the criticisms come in, but I'm more curious about answers rather than insults, if you d…
They'd both be pariahs for a considerable amount of time (decades possibly), in fact from a global point of view it might actually be better to not fire back after a limited (theatre) level attack, your opponent would destroy any credibility they had entirely.
Just the optics of the US or EU doing business with a country that lobbed a nuke at a democracy (I'm assuming it's Pakistan that fires in this scenario because honestly that is the more likely first strike, India has a firmly stated policy of no first use).
The Pakistani system is considerably more fractured and much less under control with almost parallel systems of government between the military leaders and civilian leaders.
They are pretty much the worst case scenario after NK having nukes and in some ways worse, NK doesn't have an ongoing relationship with religious fundamentalists at every level.
Re: India and Pakistan should stop playing with fire
#17I know this won't happen (well, I'm fairly positive, I should say), but what is foreign response if two, close set nations, such as India and Pakistan should choose to use a nuclear option on each other. Or North Korea and South Korea. Not on anyone else, but just on each other. I realize this is a bit of a naive question, before the criticisms come in, but I'm more curious about answers rather than insults, if you d…
The key is to read up on something called "Nuclear Winter". The impact of the next nuclear conflict is likely to be felt much more broadly than just across a single border.
A few dozen air bursts over India and Pakistan would not start any sort of nuclear winter. It would kill hundreds of millions directly and indirectly and crush the global economy, and cause immeasurable suffering. But global temps would likely be barely affected.
Re: India and Pakistan should stop playing with fire
#18I know this won't happen (well, I'm fairly positive, I should say), but what is foreign response if two, close set nations, such as India and Pakistan should choose to use a nuclear option on each other. Or North Korea and South Korea. Not on anyone else, but just on each other. I realize this is a bit of a naive question, before the criticisms come in, but I'm more curious about answers rather than insults, if you d…
They'd both be pariahs for a considerable amount of time (decades possibly), in fact from a global point of view it might actually be better to not fire back after a limited (theatre) level attack, your opponent would destroy any credibility they had entirely. Just the optics of the US or EU doing business with a country that lobbed a nuke at a democracy (I'm assuming it's Pakistan that fires in this scenario because…
It could be interesting to speculate what would happen in response to the fallout drifting over China & southern Russia. I could see both nations start raiding India/Pakistan with conventional forces just out of spite
Re: India and Pakistan should stop playing with fire
#19Yes indeed! India should pay heed to an opinion hit-piece authored by a citizen of the West with no connection to on-the-ground reality in Indian Kashmir, or India. The truth is patently simple: Pakistan's ISI (it's version of CIA) provides direct financial, logistic, and strategic cover for terrorists who target and kill Indians, routinely. How exactly does any country deal with this? I don't remember the economist…
The truth isnt as simple as you make it out to be. Pakistan was just handed into the control of a new government which seems to be taking a proactive stand with popular measures coming into play. India is entering into election terms which could be the reason these tensions are escalating. Both countries using this to further their own political agendas. India crossed the Line of Control, Pakistan shot down and captu…
To refresh your memory, 40 Indian soldiers were killed in Kashmir. Jaish-e-Mohammed claimed responsibility for this attack and is known to be based out of Pakistan. So blaming Pakistan is not misguided at all.
Re: India and Pakistan should stop playing with fire
#20India and Pakistan are like two chimpanzees hurling turds at each other in a cage of a zoo. Really cute. I wonder if it's ever going to end, though.
One of the chimpanzees directly supports terrorist groups that kills the other, and both are nuclear-armed. I feel like you're talking with complete ignorance of the situation. To call the situation "really cute" is horrible.
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