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Re: $35,000 Tesla Model 3 Available Now

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Interesting to point out that the $35k is the full price, which goes down when additional discounts are applied. If you get the short range model with no options, it starts out at $35k, then goes down all the way to $24,950 after including the $3,750 Federal tax credit, $2,000 New York EV rebate (clearly it's geolocating by IP address here), and "$4,300 estimated 6 year gas savings". OK, so that last bit is BS, and i…

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Re: $35,000 Tesla Model 3 Available Now

#52
post #7

It's so shady that their advertised price includes some hypothetical "potential gas savings", and the actual price is behind a tiny "learn more" link.

On mobile at least it’s right at the bottom of the screen in a footer. But yeah, $10k in gas? Cute but the Prius doesn’t take $5k off the show price because it’s not an F150

Re: $35,000 Tesla Model 3 Available Now

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post #27

Does this have something to do with the decision of the owners of Tesla's convertible bonds if to get back cash or shares? https://www.businessinsider.com/tesla-to-pay-march-convertib... I mean that maybe if the bond owners see that Tesla is (really?) about to deliver the 35k model they'll opt less for cash and more for stocks? (therefore Tesla would have less problems with liquidity)

No. The only factor is the convert price vs the stock price. If the stock price is lower, they will just take the cash and buy the stock on the open market at a better price.

Re: $35,000 Tesla Model 3 Available Now

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post #41
post #7

It's so shady that their advertised price includes some hypothetical "potential gas savings", and the actual price is behind a tiny "learn more" link.

It might be shady and of course some people will despise it but if the net effect is sales increased, then they should do it.

Before, my impression of Tesla was that it's a company that has had some struggles but is genuinely trying to do a cool, useful, good thing.

After, my impression of Tesla is that it's incredibly shady and manipulative, and I have a great deal of anger at it because this page is disgustingly deceptive.

You've got to get a reasonable estimate of how much less likely I'm going to purchase a Tesla in the future, but before there was a nonzero chance I would, while in this moment I feel like I'll never purchase one. That's negative value, there.

Re: $35,000 Tesla Model 3 Available Now

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blog post: https://www.tesla.com/blog/35000-tesla-model-3-available-now The interesting part is "Shifting all sales online, combined with other ongoing cost efficiencies, will enable us to lower all vehicle prices by about 6% on average, allowing us to achieve the $35,000 Model 3 price point earlier than we expected. Over the next few months, we will be winding down many of our stores, with a small number of stores i…

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Re: $35,000 Tesla Model 3 Available Now

#59

It currently costs about $2.50 to manufacture a battery cell. There are 7,700 cells in a standard battery pack. That’s $19,250 in cells before battery pack assembly. I don’t know how they are making money on this. I’m inclined to believe they’re losing money, or someone is somewhere in the line. Maybe they expect those battery costs to decline rapidly in the near future? What do you think?

Tesla's long rumored price point is $100/kWh (https://insideevs.com/tesla-cheapest-battery-pack-costs/) and these cars are presumably 60kWh, so ~$6k for the battery.

Re: $35,000 Tesla Model 3 Available Now

#60
post #33

Coming later this year: - Recognize and respond to traffic lights and stop signs. - Automatic driving on city streets. Option Selected: $5,000

I've been on plenty of machine learning projects and have seen the boss make promises that the engineers are expected to keep. This is exactly what it looks like. The outcome is always overfitting a simulation or data set somewhere so that it looks like it's working, but the real world performance ends up being worse. Unless the engineers get stubborn and declare themselves to have failed (which can actually happen).

But in the projects I did, it was some dumb sales recommendation system. These people are doing it with self driving cars.

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