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Alternatively you could pay to promote your work on facebook which you will have to do anyway and take payment on patreon.
Which will be promptly banned and your Facebook privileges revoked. Like YouTube tries to. Welcome to walled gardens.
I would boycott Facebook payments
I don't understand why people are acting like this is ridiculous and will obviously fail. 30% is the same cut that Apple and Google take for everything that goes through their app stores, including all in-app purchases. It's the same cut that Steam takes. It's the same cut that YouTube takes for channel membership. Twitch takes an even larger cut: 50% from subscriptions. It's extremely well-established that people ar…
Disclaimer: I'm working on a platform that allows you to contribute to open source as a whole and which distributes your money proportionally to how much you care about various projects. I'm thinking of taking 30% as well. I think people are just getting hung up on the number without thinking deeper on what it costs to make things sustainable. 5% of the 500 million Patreon claims to be able to process is 25 million.…
An high quality chair is, say, $500 amortized over 5 years. A table, $100 amortized over 5 years. Open office space (at 65 square feet per employee and $100 per square foot per year) is about $6,500. Insurance is about $7,000 a year per employee - total.
So, under 10% of that extra per-employeee revenue is what the actual costs for those "bonuses".
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The point is Apple have a monopoly. Your supply/demand point is facile. For small indie developers 30% is an outrageous cut. That is what the complaint is about.
> For small indie developers 30% is an outrageous cut. No indie game developer that has been around for a while would say this. A 30% cut is way less than anything else that came before it. Steam also allows you to sell Steam keys from wherever, and you get to keep 100% of that. This is how Humble Bundle works. When you release on Steam, you also get free exposure at first, which is basically free ads. You would othe…
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The commenter didn't conflate anything. They defined the legal parameters under which freedom of speech actually exists in the United States. You can insist on talking about this idealistic normative if you want, but in common parlance it's reasonable to refer to the legal concept by the colloquial term. You know how you can say whatever you want on the street, but I can make you leave my house for whatever reason I…
> The commenter didn't conflate anything. They defined the legal parameters under which freedom of speech actually exists in the United States. You can insist on talking about this idealistic normative if you want, but in common parlance it's reasonable to refer to the legal concept by the colloquial term. This is an opinion, and one many people disagree with. The idea of freedom of speech existed before the first am…
The person you are rightly critiquing seems similar to the careless but widespread view that says, "sure, go ahead and X, that's fine, it's your [legal] right, but I think blah blah" with this thing few ever catch which is: it's often totally NOT fine to do something that is nonetheless legal.
You have the right to X, but I can still say STOP IT. And I could reasonably argue in various cases that X is anti-social or bad for any range of reasons. Please people do NOT just accept or do whatever as long as it's legal. That whole idea is craziness.
I don't understand why people are acting like this is ridiculous and will obviously fail. 30% is the same cut that Apple and Google take for everything that goes through their app stores, including all in-app purchases. It's the same cut that Steam takes. It's the same cut that YouTube takes for channel membership. Twitch takes an even larger cut: 50% from subscriptions. It's extremely well-established that people ar…
Apple and Google provide significant added value in their app stores: distribution, discoverability, licensing, testing (at least in Apple's case)... etc. Patreon is not that. At its heart, it's primarily a service for collecting donations. There is some content hosting, but that's kind of a secondary feature.
Liberapay takes 0% https://liberapay.com/ It's European non-profit and open source. It's funded by the donation on it's own platform.
So who pays the credit card processing fees?
Liberapay doesn't take anything off the top
The point of this is OBVIOUSLY not just profit, it's about figuring out how to get more and more stuff to live in Facebook, be run by Facebook, and tracked by Facebook.
Zuck and Sandberg can't tolerate the idea that people are donating to things and they don't know about it. They want to know who donates to what and all the other details. And they'd like to eliminate the existence of any content that's outside of the Facebook ecosystem.
I remember when reasonably smart cellphones first came out. You could hook them up over USB and change things like ringtones or backgrounds. It was fun. Then manufacturers and cell phone companies started realizing the money train they were on. They made billions by selling this same crap to people who didn't know how or have the time to customize their own phone. As it turns out, billions of dollars tends to get peo…
> As it turns out, billions of dollars tends to get people's attention. As Sir Tony Hoare lamented: > At first I hoped that such a technically unsound project would collapse but I soon realized it was doomed to success. Almost anything in software can be implmented, sold, and even used given enough determination. There is nothing a mere scientist can say that will stand against the flood of a hundred million dollars.…
Yea what's going on with that nonsense? I can't wait until consumer electronics turn into appliances and all this tech messianism finally dies off. It's not like the newer stuff really is better anymore. People are just looking for their next hit in tech products.
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Do not worry; all these companies are private enterprises, so in US, freedom of speech doesn't apply anyway. Patreon/Paypal/Visa/Mastercard/Twitter/Facebook will drop you like a hot potato, once you publish something mildly controversial.
So what? If Liberapay was based in the US, they could choose to continue hosting you if they wanted to. In the EU, they don't have that option.
Twitter sends legal warning for blasphemy. They couldn't find better timing for illustrating the point.