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Re: Liberapay – A recurrent donations platform

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Post by Y_Y »

pjc50 wrote: post #29
hkai wrote: post #9

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The question is not the money, the question is freedom of speech. A platform taking a commission is no big deal compared to the fact that it is allowed to determine what opinions are allowed and what aren't.

The platform has to determine what it's funding, because it's dependent on (a) local law (b) payment processors (c) the goodwill of the rest of its customers. Nobody's going to help someone fund their child-porn-to-Iran scheme, and nor should they.

Unless you call it something cool, like "Tor".

Re: Liberapay – A recurrent donations platform

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Post by jelv »

cyborgx7 wrote: post #18
kabacha wrote: post #12

I love liberapay but everytime I go there I see that developing floss is not a viable career path even for the best of the best. Weekly income is no more than 100€, that's what like an hourly rate of top end freelance developer (which really a lot of these guys are). Projects like this are a very bittersweet victory for floss comunity. One step at a time I guess.

Liberapay is not the only platform that allows for free software to be funded. Here are two projects that are very well funded on Patreon. The platform itself is obviously not open source, but the projects themselves are: https://www.patreon.com/godotengine https://www.patreon.com/mastodon

There are so many good projects on Liberapay:

https://liberapay.com/Mastodon/

https://liberapay.com/archiveis/

https://liberapay.com/davidrevoy/

https://liberapay.com/GIMP/

https://liberapay.com/UBports/

https://liberapay.com/F-Droid-Data/

https://liberapay.com/pixelfed/ (open source federated Instagram)

https://liberapay.com/SFTtech/ (open source Age of Empires II)

https://liberapay.com/Telegram-FOSS/

https://liberapay.com/phpMyAdmin/

https://liberapay.com/Framasoft/

https://liberapay.com/matrixdotorg/

https://liberapay.com/Krita/

https://liberapay.com/Nextcloud/

https://liberapay.com/ReactOS/

Re: Liberapay – A recurrent donations platform

#53

Post by kurtisc »

kabacha wrote: post #12

I love liberapay but everytime I go there I see that developing floss is not a viable career path even for the best of the best. Weekly income is no more than 100€, that's what like an hourly rate of top end freelance developer (which really a lot of these guys are). Projects like this are a very bittersweet victory for floss comunity. One step at a time I guess.

You can work for companies that will pay you to develop FLOSS that supports their products. This is where most of code in Linux comes from.

Re: Liberapay – A recurrent donations platform

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Post by jelv »

gsnedders wrote: post #50
fwn wrote: post #43

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Not trying to dispute your point, but out of curiosity: Is that actually true? > Donations to [...] can be paid using: a credit or debit card (Visa, MasterCard, American Express), a Euro bank account (SEPA Direct Debit), or a PayPal account. Could I send money through my regular European bank without using Stripe to pay on Liberapay? Does anyone know how they've implemented that?

Huh, weird. On the creator side, they say: > We currently support processing payments through Stripe and PayPal. From that point of view, they could potentially get stuck paying creators operating in what Visa/MasterCard/etc. consider high-risk categories.

SEPA is option of Stripe.

Re: Liberapay – A recurrent donations platform

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Post by mattbk1 »

ancorevard wrote: post #7

More important than the 0% commission is how open this platform will actually be, or will it also engage in politics and police certain speech as they see fit?

From https://github.com/liberapay/liberapay.com/issues/1383:

> Liberapay cannot protect anyone from the decisions of underlying payment processors, not even itself (https://medium.com/liberapay-blog/liberapay-is-in-trouble-b5...).

Re: Liberapay – A recurrent donations platform

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Post by elcomet »

nspkr wrote: post #21
class4behavior wrote: post #13

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Well, Liberapay is for donations only, hence it is not a true alternative to Patreon and such. Also, you still have to pay the processing fees which, they say, should be below 5% on average. Nonetheless, it is pretty well-made and needed, especially since they care about internationalization.

I don't see any reason why Liberapay couldn't deploy a recurring donation system like Patreon's.

They don't allow donations on content publication like patreon does, because it can be seen as a purchase.

They only allow reccuring donations.

Re: Liberapay – A recurrent donations platform

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Post by yorwba »

class4behavior wrote: post #40
kabacha wrote: post #12

I love liberapay but everytime I go there I see that developing floss is not a viable career path even for the best of the best. Weekly income is no more than 100€, that's what like an hourly rate of top end freelance developer (which really a lot of these guys are). Projects like this are a very bittersweet victory for floss comunity. One step at a time I guess.

>Weekly income is no more than 100€, that's what like an hourly rate of top end freelance developer (which really a lot of these guys are). You do realize that's per donor and a recurring payment.

It's not per donor. Their total transfer volume last week was €1,589.34 according to the website. As far as I can tell, the only project with more than €100 in weekly income is Liberapay itself.

EDIT: I see now that they cap donations per donor and recipient at €100 per week, but it doesn't seem like anyone gets close to the cap.

Re: Liberapay – A recurrent donations platform

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Post by mattbk1 »

yorwba wrote: post #58
class4behavior wrote: post #40

Earlier quoted context omitted.

>Weekly income is no more than 100€, that's what like an hourly rate of top end freelance developer (which really a lot of these guys are). You do realize that's per donor and a recurring payment.

It's not per donor. Their total transfer volume last week was €1,589.34 according to the website. As far as I can tell, the only project with more than €100 in weekly income is Liberapay itself. EDIT: I see now that they cap donations per donor and recipient at €100 per week, but it doesn't seem like anyone gets close to the cap.

There may be donees who receive more than that but don't make the amount public, but you are correct about the total volume.
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