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CERN 2019 WorldWideWeb Rebuild

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Re: CERN 2019 WorldWideWeb Rebuild

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Post by krapp »

kgwgk wrote: post #35
krapp wrote: post #17

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Ironically (and anecdotally) I remember pages loading much more slowly back then than now, on average. People comparing the two need to remember just how much faster and better optimized computers are now, as well as the speed of broadband versus dialup.

Ironically? I assumed your grand-parent was joking. A top-end PC in 1990 was a 33MHz i486 with 4Mb of RAM and a 9600 bit/s modem.

"Ironic" in that a lot of people here complain about how slow the modern web is versus the simpler purely static web of the past, when the modern web even with all the javascript BS is qualitatively faster.

Re: CERN 2019 WorldWideWeb Rebuild

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Post by giancarlostoro »

dkersten wrote: post #9
giancarlostoro wrote: post #4

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Yeah I would love to see a modern Fluxbox. My only issue with Fluxbox on Ubuntu and similar is other DE's seem to have better visual support for wireless. I have no way of connecting to the internet if I can't even see the Wi-Fi icon anywhere. I don't want to have to install components from another DE. Also they seem to mostly be abandoned. I have the same issue with tiling WM's. I don't want to have to configure my…

> I have the same issue with tiling WM's. My Manjaro-i3 environment worked out of the box and had all of the things you'd expect (wifi icon, volume icon, battery indicator etc). The only reason I had to configure anything at all is because of personal taste. I find the Manjaro WM packages pretty good, personally.

I tried Manjaro before, didn't have the nicest experience getting it setup on one of my laptops. I try to stick to Ubuntu derived Linux distros cause they usually support my hardware cleanly enough. I wouldn't mind trying it out again though, but i3 is a lot different from Fluxbox.

Re: CERN 2019 WorldWideWeb Rebuild

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Post by reaperducer »

bluedino wrote: post #12
pavlov wrote: post #2

It's interesting to use the original NeXT interface after all these years. Honestly I feel I could be very happy with a modern desktop that stuck to the NeXT principles, just updated text rendering to modern standards. 2-bit greyscale is good enough for UI widgets, especially now that we have high-DPI displays and don't necessarily need edge antialiasing anymore for vector graphics. Text labels on menus and buttons i…

The first few versions of OS X were more NeXT-like. They felt dated. And the column-based file browser never appealed to me. I do agree that a high-res black and white screen is so much better for text related tasks than what we had back then in PC land. 640x480x16 colors was a mess. Worked fine for things like CAD but kind of gross to type documents on.

The first few versions of OS X were more NeXT-like. They felt dated.

Very interesting. My first Mac was an OS9 machine that came out so close to the release of OSX that it came with a free upgrade coupon.

I had a NeXT at work at the same time, and my memory is that the two environments were significantly different. Different enough that I gave the OS9 machine to my wife when OSX came out because it was so easy to use (she had a PS/2).

Re: CERN 2019 WorldWideWeb Rebuild

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Post by c22 »

wnevets wrote: post #33
krapp wrote: post #17

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Ironically (and anecdotally) I remember pages loading much more slowly back then than now, on average. People comparing the two need to remember just how much faster and better optimized computers are now, as well as the speed of broadband versus dialup.

Modern sites have nothing on the awful experience of browsing the web on dialup.

Try browsing a modern site on dialup.

Re: CERN 2019 WorldWideWeb Rebuild

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Post by dkersten »

giancarlostoro wrote: post #42
dkersten wrote: post #9

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> I have the same issue with tiling WM's. My Manjaro-i3 environment worked out of the box and had all of the things you'd expect (wifi icon, volume icon, battery indicator etc). The only reason I had to configure anything at all is because of personal taste. I find the Manjaro WM packages pretty good, personally.

I tried Manjaro before, didn't have the nicest experience getting it setup on one of my laptops. I try to stick to Ubuntu derived Linux distros cause they usually support my hardware cleanly enough. I wouldn't mind trying it out again though, but i3 is a lot different from Fluxbox.

I mentioned i3 only because you mentioned tiling window managers requiring too much configuration to setup. Manjaro also has a AwesomeWM distribution as an alternative tiling WM.

But aside from tiling window managers, Manjaro also has pre-packaged distributions with Openbox, XFCE, Budgie, Mate and Deepin and a few other less lightweight environments like KDE and Gnome. There's also the "architect edition" which does require a bunch of configuration.

Re: CERN 2019 WorldWideWeb Rebuild

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Post by _Microft »

If you want to follow a link, place the cursor in it and select Links->Follow Link in the menu bar to the left.

Browsing different adresses proved difficult, it only worked for me by editing the URL and loading the page in a new tab.

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