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CERN 2019 WorldWideWeb Rebuild

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Re: CERN 2019 WorldWideWeb Rebuild

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Post by afj3lmb8zs »

giancarlostoro wrote: post #4
pavlov wrote: post #2

It's interesting to use the original NeXT interface after all these years. Honestly I feel I could be very happy with a modern desktop that stuck to the NeXT principles, just updated text rendering to modern standards. 2-bit greyscale is good enough for UI widgets, especially now that we have high-DPI displays and don't necessarily need edge antialiasing anymore for vector graphics. Text labels on menus and buttons i…

Yeah I would love to see a modern Fluxbox. My only issue with Fluxbox on Ubuntu and similar is other DE's seem to have better visual support for wireless. I have no way of connecting to the internet if I can't even see the Wi-Fi icon anywhere. I don't want to have to install components from another DE. Also they seem to mostly be abandoned. I have the same issue with tiling WM's. I don't want to have to configure my…

>connecting to the internet if I can't even see the Wi-Fi icon

I usually just run nmtui in a terminal.

Re: CERN 2019 WorldWideWeb Rebuild

#26

Post by megous »

afj3lmb8zs wrote: post #21
giancarlostoro wrote: post #4

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Yeah I would love to see a modern Fluxbox. My only issue with Fluxbox on Ubuntu and similar is other DE's seem to have better visual support for wireless. I have no way of connecting to the internet if I can't even see the Wi-Fi icon anywhere. I don't want to have to install components from another DE. Also they seem to mostly be abandoned. I have the same issue with tiling WM's. I don't want to have to configure my…

>connecting to the internet if I can't even see the Wi-Fi icon I usually just run nmtui in a terminal.

This. It uses dialog like interface.

Re: CERN 2019 WorldWideWeb Rebuild

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Post by keithpeter »

giancarlostoro wrote: post #4
pavlov wrote: post #2

It's interesting to use the original NeXT interface after all these years. Honestly I feel I could be very happy with a modern desktop that stuck to the NeXT principles, just updated text rendering to modern standards. 2-bit greyscale is good enough for UI widgets, especially now that we have high-DPI displays and don't necessarily need edge antialiasing anymore for vector graphics. Text labels on menus and buttons i…

Yeah I would love to see a modern Fluxbox. My only issue with Fluxbox on Ubuntu and similar is other DE's seem to have better visual support for wireless. I have no way of connecting to the internet if I can't even see the Wi-Fi icon anywhere. I don't want to have to install components from another DE. Also they seem to mostly be abandoned. I have the same issue with tiling WM's. I don't want to have to configure my…

Personally I get along with nmtui from the command line (as user) but I appreciate the desire for a tray icon of some kind.

Re: CERN 2019 WorldWideWeb Rebuild

#28

Post by komali2 »

afj3lmb8zs wrote: post #21
giancarlostoro wrote: post #4

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Yeah I would love to see a modern Fluxbox. My only issue with Fluxbox on Ubuntu and similar is other DE's seem to have better visual support for wireless. I have no way of connecting to the internet if I can't even see the Wi-Fi icon anywhere. I don't want to have to install components from another DE. Also they seem to mostly be abandoned. I have the same issue with tiling WM's. I don't want to have to configure my…

>connecting to the internet if I can't even see the Wi-Fi icon I usually just run nmtui in a terminal.

Right, but you get the idea yea? If you sat me down at the machine ten seconds ago and said "turn on the WiFi," would "run a command in terminal that doesn't have the words network, wifi, or internet in it" really be at the top of the list of things I'd try?

Edit: oh, that's some sort of ui opening command?

Re: CERN 2019 WorldWideWeb Rebuild

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Post by megous »

komali2 wrote: post #28
afj3lmb8zs wrote: post #21

Earlier quoted context omitted.

>connecting to the internet if I can't even see the Wi-Fi icon I usually just run nmtui in a terminal.

Right, but you get the idea yea? If you sat me down at the machine ten seconds ago and said "turn on the WiFi," would "run a command in terminal that doesn't have the words network, wifi, or internet in it" really be at the top of the list of things I'd try? Edit: oh, that's some sort of ui opening command?

That's not the point of these fringe desktop environments.

If you sat someone in front of custom configured i3wm, they would not have a clue how to do anything, really. The point is that the owner can have a nice customized and highly effective experience of using a computer.

There's a way to configure wifi easily without an icon, with some text based menus and nmtui is one way to do it if you use NetworkManager. You don't need an icon/GUI. Also there's nm-applet, so you can have a tray icon and GUI even in these DEs.

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