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Nasa Happily Reports the Earth Is Greener

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Re: Nasa Happily Reports the Earth Is Greener

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Post by beachy »

devmunchies wrote: post #13
aaronbrethorst wrote: post #9

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Especially with Brazil's fascist[1] new president, Jair Bolsonaro, making moves to destroy the amazon: https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/the_americas/brazils-bo... [1] Not an exaggeration. https://www.thenation.com/article/a-genuine-fascist-is-on-th...

I don’t think being a fascist has anything to do with deforestation. There’s a history of fascists wanting to preserve the “motherland”. Even views such as ecofascism as portrayed in Linkola’s Can Life Prevail? I only care about ecologically minded governments and I don’t care about left or right. It’s the only important issue at this point.

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Re: Nasa Happily Reports the Earth Is Greener

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Post by dbtqgoat »

cjohansson wrote: post #2

Thanks for the good newss, didn’t know about that. News tend to be biased towards the bad and the good is left it. Bookmarking that site

I wouldn’t bookmark this site. The writers of this article did not do their due diligence in their research or in their presentation of this article. Check our the other comments here, which do a good job of explaining the nuances of the “greening”.

Re: Nasa Happily Reports the Earth Is Greener

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Post by devmunchies »

blotter_paper wrote: post #17
devmunchies wrote: post #13

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I don’t think being a fascist has anything to do with deforestation. There’s a history of fascists wanting to preserve the “motherland”. Even views such as ecofascism as portrayed in Linkola’s Can Life Prevail? I only care about ecologically minded governments and I don’t care about left or right. It’s the only important issue at this point.

>I only care about ecology minded governments and I don’t care about left or right. It’s the only important issue at this point. This is a rather strong statement given that it comes right after a recognition that fascist governments have historically had some ecologically friendly ideals. Are we talking about accepting literal genocide? Like, if we don't take care of the environment then everybody dies, so a fascist…

IF we are taking about the end of the human race, which is in fact a possibility if we continue with the current trends, then anything that could curb human appetites and populations is free game IMO. People don’t realize what’s at stake. Interpret that how you like.

Re: Nasa Happily Reports the Earth Is Greener

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Post by dbtqgoat »

beachy wrote: post #21
devmunchies wrote: post #13

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I don’t think being a fascist has anything to do with deforestation. There’s a history of fascists wanting to preserve the “motherland”. Even views such as ecofascism as portrayed in Linkola’s Can Life Prevail? I only care about ecologically minded governments and I don’t care about left or right. It’s the only important issue at this point.

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That’s the one thing that will actually cost corporations money, so it’s the last thing they will address. The other things aren’t really issues to the corporate politicians, they’re just talking points.

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Post by ehnto »

raws wrote: post #4
b_tterc_p wrote: post #3

The title says trees but I think it really means “greenness” from a satillite view. Reading around the bottom, while India and China have done substantial tree planting programs, it sounds like a large chunk of this may be driven by unsustainable use of farm land. I’m not clear on how their increased farm usage corresponds to greenness and whether that matters. Would be curious if anyone can chime in.

All plants do contribute to carbon sequestration but yes it does not mean that they are polluting less with unregulated farming practices.

Regulations rarely target sustainability anyway. The only thing typically regulated is water rights and chemicals used.

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Post by aaronbrethorst »

beachy wrote: post #21
devmunchies wrote: post #13

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I don’t think being a fascist has anything to do with deforestation. There’s a history of fascists wanting to preserve the “motherland”. Even views such as ecofascism as portrayed in Linkola’s Can Life Prevail? I only care about ecologically minded governments and I don’t care about left or right. It’s the only important issue at this point.

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I wish that the Democrats would concede on abortion, guns, religion, racism and everything else - as long as the one thing they do get is a majority that will start dealing with our climate emergency

I don't think you have a handle on the right's agenda in the United States, nor how the left can create a majority. Conceding the issues that you describe here would take the United States further away from dealing with our climate emergency.

Re: Nasa Happily Reports the Earth Is Greener

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Post by adnzzzzZ »

aaronbrethorst wrote: post #9
skilled wrote: post #7

I don't see how this addresses the issue of deforestation in places like the Amazon. The effect that this "practice" has had on the environment is irreversible at this point. But to each his own. Any positive news regarding the environment are always welcome.

Especially with Brazil's fascist[1] new president, Jair Bolsonaro, making moves to destroy the amazon: https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/the_americas/brazils-bo... [1] Not an exaggeration. https://www.thenation.com/article/a-genuine-fascist-is-on-th...

80% of my country's (Brazil) energy generation is done through renewable means. This isn't even close to true for most first world countries, and certainly not the US. Maybe before worrying about countries you know nothing about (as well as carelessly calling our elected officials fascists) you should start looking at your own, wherever you're from.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_electrici...

Re: Nasa Happily Reports the Earth Is Greener

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Post by pjc50 »

keiferski wrote: post #11

Serious question from a non-climate scientist: would an increase in global temperatures due to climate change ultimately cause more greenery, due to new growth in previously too-cold areas?

Also need to factor in the too-warm, too-dry and on-fire areas.

Re: Nasa Happily Reports the Earth Is Greener

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Post by ordu »

FriedPickles wrote: post #18

From what I understand, the increase in atmospheric carbon dioxide will have a massive greening effect on the Earth (plants love CO2). But it seems this fact is usually omitted so as not to complicate the intended message. I always found it ironic that the "eco" mode button in many cars is a leaf icon.

Green mass of the leafs is the captured carbon dioxide that doesn't contribute to a greenhouse effect. Even if all leafs will be oxidized in a year, it doesn't matter because new leafs will emerge. Though I'm not sure about actual green mass on the Earth and cannot compare it with mass of CO2 in athmosphere, maybe it is too small to have any effect.
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