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Re: RIP Culture War Thread

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that's a deceptive semantic conflation (i.e., poor logic; a bad idea). tolerance is for the person, not the idea (e.g., morals). ideas neither need nor deserve "tolerance". many ideas don't even deserve attention, let alone esteem or support. for example: "i believe that wild bengal tiger will come lick my feet and cough up whole, live bunnies for me to cuddle." bad idea. doesn't deserve any tolerance whatsoever. peo…

> that's a deceptive semantic conflation (i.e., poor logic; a bad idea). tolerance is for the person, not the idea (e.g., morals). ideas neither need nor deserve "tolerance". many ideas don't even deserve attention, let alone esteem or support. That's true, but then you need to set up judicable public standards for how to rule on which ideas are good and which are bad. Since most of "liberal" or "free" society is bas…

it's understandable to want such a commonly-shared standard, but that's not necessary (i'd even contend it's not desirable, for a robust and resiliant society).

we already codify ideas, test them, rank them, and modify or discard them through academic, religious, political, commercial, and social organizations. it's a dynamic system, not a (slowly-built) static one.

"The arc of the moral universe is long, but it bends toward justice". - MLK Jr. (paraphrasing theodore parker apparently, which i just learned =)

Re: RIP Culture War Thread

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

> that's a deceptive semantic conflation (i.e., poor logic; a bad idea). tolerance is for the person, not the idea (e.g., morals). ideas neither need nor deserve "tolerance". many ideas don't even deserve attention, let alone esteem or support. That's true, but then you need to set up judicable public standards for how to rule on which ideas are good and which are bad. Since most of "liberal" or "free" society is bas…

it's understandable to want such a commonly-shared standard, but that's not necessary (i'd even contend it's not desirable, for a robust and resiliant society). we already codify ideas, test them, rank them, and modify or discard them through academic, religious, political, commercial, and social organizations. it's a dynamic system, not a (slowly-built) static one. "The arc of the moral universe is long, but it bend…

If you can't appeal to a codified standard, I see no reason you should be allowed to exercise authority over others.

Re: RIP Culture War Thread

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I believe Scott makes the survey raw anonymized data available: https://slatestarcodex.com/2019/01/13/ssc-survey-results-201... So, drill away!

Anonymized is unfortunately not useful for this -- you need to be able to get to the reddit user names. I don't see anything in there that would provide number of comments they make in the culture wars thread, and that's really what you need.

> you need to be able to get to the reddit user names.

I don't understand how you can think that's a reasonable thing to ask for, given what this thread is about.

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