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Re: Linux Desktop Setup

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That's not a desktop setup. It's much more complicated than the workstation setup I use at work. A desktop setup is my Xiaomi laptop with Ubuntu 18.04 that I use as media caster or to browse amazon while on the couch. It works flawlessly, much better than the preinstalled Windows 10 in chinese.

Well, I would say yours is not a desktop setup ;-) I mean, desktop usage is meant for people who work with computers. They spend several hours a day in front of them and therefore require ergonomic chairs and the like. If you want to use your laptop on your couch, that is completely okay, but you are probably not doing some of the things people at desks are doing (like decrypting compilers errors etc.).

> I mean, desktop usage is meant for people who work with computers

Practically everyone works with computers.

> They spend several hours a day in front of them and therefore require ergonomic chairs and the like.

That includes almost everybody.

> like decrypting compilers errors etc

I do that on my couch.

Desktop setup is a computer set up for desktop use, AKA, _for regular people everyday use_, that come bundled at most with some productivity suite (usually Office or Office clones).

Xmonad is not desktop ready, on the contrary, it harms Linux penetration on the desktop segment.

Ubuntu is a desktop setup, Fedora is a desktop setup, ElementaryOS is a desktop setup (etc. etc. etc.)

If you are compiling, you are already a pro user.

A desktop user doesn't fight with the default configuration, a desktop user adapt to the default configuration.

They might change the desktop background and WM theme, and that's all.

Re: Linux Desktop Setup

#83
post #40

I'm always kind of amazed at this kind of desktop setups, and I guess they're not suitable for lots of people for the simple reason that most users have a "consumer" relationship with computers and not a "producer" one. My biggest question here for people with this kind of text setup would be: don't you surf the web? Do you use then lynx or another text web browser? What about services and platforms that are designed…

It's not all-or-nothing. Just because you use a tiling window manager and like to operate it with the keyboard doesn't mean you can't use your mouse any more. I used to use i3, and I used Firefox for browsing. I used the keyboard to layout the windows where it was more convenient, but I clicked on buttons with a mouse when that was more convenient. I now use the standard Ubuntu setup, not for any particular reason, j…

That’s why I use tmux

Re: Linux Desktop Setup

#84

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Well, I would say yours is not a desktop setup ;-) I mean, desktop usage is meant for people who work with computers. They spend several hours a day in front of them and therefore require ergonomic chairs and the like. If you want to use your laptop on your couch, that is completely okay, but you are probably not doing some of the things people at desks are doing (like decrypting compilers errors etc.).

> I mean, desktop usage is meant for people who work with computers Practically everyone works with computers. > They spend several hours a day in front of them and therefore require ergonomic chairs and the like. That includes almost everybody. > like decrypting compilers errors etc I do that on my couch. Desktop setup is a computer set up for desktop use, AKA, _for regular people everyday use_, that come bundled at…

You’re both quite silly. Do you see your comments?

Re: Linux Desktop Setup

#87
post #29

Everyone here scoring serious brownie points with their advanced setups. And here I am, having used Linux for my personal setup for 15 years, using pre-installed Ubuntu on a practically default GNOME desktop. It's wonderful that I can do that and be satisfied with that, without significantly hampering the possibility of advanced setups like the ones here. Despite all the systemd's, PulseAudio's and whatnot's, the cus…

I've been using Linux in some form for 15 years. Like you, it's been some pre-packaged usable out-of-the-box distro (Xubuntu, Crunchbang, Mint). I've never once compiled a kernel, as I never had to, or saw the need, and it doesn't seem like fun (neither would fixing the compile errors the inevitably come up when I try to compile anything from C/C++). I've never had audio problems that everyone else seems to have, and I don't get the uproar over systemd.

It all seems to work for me. Am I too much of a Linux noob to appreciate these problems?

Re: Linux Desktop Setup

#88

That's not a desktop setup. It's much more complicated than the workstation setup I use at work. A desktop setup is my Xiaomi laptop with Ubuntu 18.04 that I use as media caster or to browse amazon while on the couch. It works flawlessly, much better than the preinstalled Windows 10 in chinese.

It certainly is a 'desktop', it might not be yours but it bears resemblance to mine. The 'desktop' metaphor might have been equated with complicated all-integrated environments like Windows, MacOS, Gnome and KDE but in the end it comes down on something-on-a-computer which provides a place to work and access to the resources the computer has to offer. Like physical desktops these come in al shapes and sizes ranging f…

> It certainly is a 'desktop', it might not be yours but it bears resemblance to mine

It does resemble mine, either.

In fact I'm not a desktop user.

> or at a lobotomised full desktop like Gnome

That's super not nice.

Regular people want a tool, not something you fall in love with and spend most of the day refining.

Most people have hobbies outside of the tech world, they will spend hours growing their gardens, but couldn't care less about "keyboard focuesed" or "run programs in the terminal" or "I quickly noticed the huge compile time of KDE".

If they can't use it properly, like they are used to, it's broken for them.

And they're not wrong.

Re: Linux Desktop Setup

#89
The author mentions the loss of vim-like web browser controls when the Pentadactyl extension didn't convert over to the webextensions api.

You get the vim functionality back with the following extensions:

Firefox -- Vim Vixen (https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/vim-vixen/)

Chrome -- cVim (https://chrome.google.com/webstore/detail/cvim/ihlenndgcmojh...)

Re: Linux Desktop Setup

#90

That's not a desktop setup. It's much more complicated than the workstation setup I use at work. A desktop setup is my Xiaomi laptop with Ubuntu 18.04 that I use as media caster or to browse amazon while on the couch. It works flawlessly, much better than the preinstalled Windows 10 in chinese.

What a gem of a comment. What is complicated about the setup? What makes you think he can't cast media or browse Amazon on his laptop while sitting on the couch?

> What is complicated about the setup?

Everything.

> What makes you think he can't cast media or browse Amazon on his laptop while sitting on the couch?

I never said he can't, it just took a lot more time for him than it took for me to do it.

Are regular drivers going out for groceries tuning their engine to perfection everytime they need to go buy milk?

That's what a desktop is all about, a computer sitting on a desktop dedicated to a worker, not a pro, and expert, a tuner, a nerd, a geek, someone who loves machine carnally.

Just regular folks that know ho to do what they have to do and that's just it.

I've been a Linux user for the past 15 years, I installed my first Slackware in 1996, but I wouldn't say my setup is desktop ready.

I don't know how many of my 13 thousands coworkers would have been able to solve the problems I had with Debian and my Lenovo P-70 multi monitor setup. I'm sure many of them think I'm crazy spending so much time on it, when they have a problem they call IT and until IT doesn't solve it, they are not working, and are happier.

That's a desktop computer.

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