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SEC Asks Manhattan Federal Court to Hold Elon Musk in Contempt

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Re: SEC Asks Manhattan Federal Court to Hold Elon Musk in Contempt

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> This seems like a pretty simple mistake to have made Elon Musk is the head of a public corporation, not a random Twitter user.

He's a human being who also happens to be the head of a public corporation. We can't expect every single action he takes at every point to be filtered into legalese. IMO, if he had said this in an earnings call, or presented it in a way that made it seem "official", then I could get the problem, but it's twitter .

We don't even hold our president liable for what he says on twitter.

Re: SEC Asks Manhattan Federal Court to Hold Elon Musk in Contempt

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> This seems like a pretty simple mistake to have made Elon Musk is the head of a public corporation, not a random Twitter user.

Making him immune to mistakes?

Meaning his mistakes move markets. Nobody has to be on Twitter. If you are and you're on the c-suite of a publicly traded company, you need communication discipline

Re: SEC Asks Manhattan Federal Court to Hold Elon Musk in Contempt

#83
post #75

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> This seems like a pretty simple mistake to have made Elon Musk is the head of a public corporation, not a random Twitter user.

He's a human being who also happens to be the head of a public corporation. We can't expect every single action he takes at every point to be filtered into legalese. IMO, if he had said this in an earnings call, or presented it in a way that made it seem "official", then I could get the problem, but it's twitter .

> IMO, if he had said this in an earnings call, or presented it in a way that made it seem "official", then I could get the problem, but it's twitter.

TSLA stated five years ago that Musk's twitter is an official source of information regarding the company.

Re: SEC Asks Manhattan Federal Court to Hold Elon Musk in Contempt

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This is true for every employee of every public company on the planet. We're discussing it here because Mr. Musk thinks the rules don't apply to him.

Sorry that's simply false. You have all your freedoms. You can get fired for exercising them but that doesn't mean you don't have them. If the shareholders wanted to fire Elon Musk they would, but they aren't so the SEC should butt out of the issue.

You can’t lie about your company as a ceo. That’s securities fraud.

Re: SEC Asks Manhattan Federal Court to Hold Elon Musk in Contempt

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post #75

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> This seems like a pretty simple mistake to have made Elon Musk is the head of a public corporation, not a random Twitter user.

He's a human being who also happens to be the head of a public corporation. We can't expect every single action he takes at every point to be filtered into legalese. IMO, if he had said this in an earnings call, or presented it in a way that made it seem "official", then I could get the problem, but it's twitter .

Tesla registered his Twitter account as an official channel for such information. That brings with it expectations and obligations, since investors etc now have to read it to be fully informed, and has similar relevance to e.g. official Tesla press releases.

He specifically agreed to have Tesla legal review all such tweets to make sure he doesn't tweet bad information again, and promptly went and ignored that.

Re: SEC Asks Manhattan Federal Court to Hold Elon Musk in Contempt

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SEC filing: https://www.documentcloud.org/documents/5750664-Show-Cause.h...

Why do people love to link to this awful PDF-rendering web page instead of the PDFs themselves?

https://assets.documentcloud.org/documents/5750664/Show-Caus...

Re: SEC Asks Manhattan Federal Court to Hold Elon Musk in Contempt

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Canned by the company yes, not canned by the government.

Government isn't canning Musk. They're fining him for releasing material misinformation about his company. This has been well established in the law.

Not misinformation, guidance was 350 - 500. This is a technicality of not getting approval for a tweet that could be interpreted as saying they are definitely hitting 500k 8 months from now. This is stupid.

https://twitter.com/_jameshatfield_/status/11001772987230945...

Re: SEC Asks Manhattan Federal Court to Hold Elon Musk in Contempt

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My knowledge of how publicly traded companies work is very limited, but: Was what he said really that bad? He said: >Tesla made 0 cars in 2011, but will make around 500k in 2019 And then later corrected himself with: >Meant to say annualized production rate at end of 2019 probably around 500k, ie 10k cars/week. Deliveries for year still estimated to be about 400k. This seems like a pretty simple mistake to have made,…

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Re: SEC Asks Manhattan Federal Court to Hold Elon Musk in Contempt

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post #75

Earlier quoted context omitted.

He's a human being who also happens to be the head of a public corporation. We can't expect every single action he takes at every point to be filtered into legalese. IMO, if he had said this in an earnings call, or presented it in a way that made it seem "official", then I could get the problem, but it's twitter .

According to the company his twitter feed is an official source of information about the company.

Where?

https://www.google.com/search?rlz=1C1CHBF_enUS791US791&biw=1...

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