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Taiwanese horror game boycotted, removed from China market, company apologizes

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Re: Taiwanese horror game boycotted, removed from China market, company apologizes

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Post by legacynl »

jlawson wrote: post #29
anonytrary wrote: post #19

> The new horror video game called “Devotion” created an uproar among Chinese netizens when a poster in the game was discovered to mock Chinese leader Xi Jinping, by referring to him as “Winnie the Pooh.” What? That's it? Damn. That's nothing. Maybe free speech being rampant breeds thick skins, maybe free speech is a good thing.

Exposure to difficult, foreign ideas builds up the coping skills to handle dealing with those ideas. People who have been kept in an ideological bubble for their whole lives have conditioned-in panic/rage responses to ideas that go against the assumptions they've been taught to see as universal moral foundations. This isn't a bug; these responses are conditioned into people on purpose by the memeplex in order to make…

> American students from any leftist area facing nearly any conservative points of view on any issue

Lol, I love how you single out the left here, as if the American right is any different, haha

Re: Taiwanese horror game boycotted, removed from China market, company apologizes

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Post by magicnmonkey »

peppatherappa wrote: post #18
komali2 wrote: post #2

>We are deeply sorry for hurting everybody,” Damn. While I get the position of the Taiwanese, I sometimes wish they'd send more middle fingers at the mainland. "yeah, xi jinping is a dumpling, fuckm, we apologise for nothing." As if Taiwan is an existential threat to prc by hurling insults as dramatic as "Winnie the Pooh" across the strait. Just seems like more bullying to me.

I am Taiwanese who is currently studying in US college. I would like to say to hacker news: please stop supporting the Chinese government. Please try not to buy products from China. It is a bit harder, but it's possible. Last week I went to Fry's for a new pair of headphones, and it only took me a few tries before finding one made in Indonesia and another made in Thailand. If more of us do this, we can force more man…

They all use many parts made in China, so what's the point?

There is no way you can get a product which doesn't use Chinese parts as many rare metals are minned in large quantities (hences lower cost) in China only.

Re: Taiwanese horror game boycotted, removed from China market, company apologizes

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Post by SN76477 »

hungryhobo wrote: post #28
anonytrary wrote: post #19

> The new horror video game called “Devotion” created an uproar among Chinese netizens when a poster in the game was discovered to mock Chinese leader Xi Jinping, by referring to him as “Winnie the Pooh.” What? That's it? Damn. That's nothing. Maybe free speech being rampant breeds thick skins, maybe free speech is a good thing.

or you know, just a marketing campaign cause Westerners just eat up the big bad china narrative

Is China good now?

Re: Taiwanese horror game boycotted, removed from China market, company apologizes

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Post by forkLding »

The reality of the situation is that most of the company's sales comes from the Chinese market, which is the reason why there are so many negative reviews. You need ownership of the game to post a Steam review. This situation could be alleviated if other people buy the game because it has English translations.

The reason for anger I've heard from Chinese gamers is that they turned this issue political whereas in the past games didn't involve politics and they're pissed that their apolitical space has been invaded. As well, streaming the game has gotten Chinese game-streamers in trouble or having to take down their streams/videos.

https://store.steampowered.com/app/1006510/Devotion/ you can read the Chinese comments yourselves, they're well-written in English

Re: Taiwanese horror game boycotted, removed from China market, company apologizes

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Post by ladygungun »

forkLding wrote: post #54

The reality of the situation is that most of the company's sales comes from the Chinese market, which is the reason why there are so many negative reviews. You need ownership of the game to post a Steam review. This situation could be alleviated if other people buy the game because it has English translations. The reason for anger I've heard from Chinese gamers is that they turned this issue political whereas in the…

hey, are you ok? The reality is that the game had sold over one million copies, and while it does has English translation and gained some popularity in other regions, the rest of the sales had gone to Chinese gamers whom bought the game just to leave negative reviews on Steam. Set other games and other studios aside, Red Candles had always been political, their first hit, the Detention, presented the horror and surreal reality of authoritarian KMT regime in Taiwan. The Chinese gamers should have clear sense of what they are engaging with.

Re: Taiwanese horror game boycotted, removed from China market, company apologizes

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Post by uranusjr »

forkLding wrote: post #54

The reality of the situation is that most of the company's sales comes from the Chinese market, which is the reason why there are so many negative reviews. You need ownership of the game to post a Steam review. This situation could be alleviated if other people buy the game because it has English translations. The reason for anger I've heard from Chinese gamers is that they turned this issue political whereas in the…

> The reality of the situation is that most of the company's sales comes from the Chinese market, which is the reason why there are so many negative reviews. You need ownership of the game to post a Steam review.

Except that Steam offers full refund without removing your review. This is a well-known strategy for review spammers ;)

Re: Taiwanese horror game boycotted, removed from China market, company apologizes

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Post by ionised »

hitekker wrote: post #44
anonytrary wrote: post #19

> The new horror video game called “Devotion” created an uproar among Chinese netizens when a poster in the game was discovered to mock Chinese leader Xi Jinping, by referring to him as “Winnie the Pooh.” What? That's it? Damn. That's nothing. Maybe free speech being rampant breeds thick skins, maybe free speech is a good thing.

My friends from the mainland call these people 愤青, which means "young jingoistic men". Any sleight against China and they’ll come in droves: screeching, gibbering, and proclaiming the eternal glory of the lunar kingdom (and its subsidiaries). These trolls just want to feel big. Bullying other countries make them feel big. Especially when the smaller country in question the one they dream of conquering.

Your entire post also perfectly describes most Americans I encounter on social media.

I think it's just young uneducated idiots, taking credit for the accomplishments of their nation that they personally had no part in to try to convince people they argue with online that they aren't as insecure as they obviously are.

It's an inferiority complex.

Re: Taiwanese horror game boycotted, removed from China market, company apologizes

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Post by pennaMan »

duxup wrote: post #9

It's always a little disturbing to see speech like calling a political leader “Winnie the Pooh” get such a response.

Look up what kind of speech got projects removed from GitHub (nothing to do with China or any political leader) if you really want to be disturbed. At least in this case there's a nation state involved, with a well known highly tuned propaganda machine.

Re: Taiwanese horror game boycotted, removed from China market, company apologizes

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Post by Smithalicious »

pennaMan wrote: post #58
duxup wrote: post #9

It's always a little disturbing to see speech like calling a political leader “Winnie the Pooh” get such a response.

Look up what kind of speech got projects removed from GitHub (nothing to do with China or any political leader) if you really want to be disturbed. At least in this case there's a nation state involved, with a well known highly tuned propaganda machine.

Can you give an example?

Re: Taiwanese horror game boycotted, removed from China market, company apologizes

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Post by JohnJamesRambo »

arthurcolle wrote: post #45
JohnJamesRambo wrote: post #39

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Nope it could be just that. There’s a lot of weirdness in China about Winnie the Pooh because the dictator in charge there is sensitive about his physical resemblance to the character. You can google it and find lots of articles about it.

https://www.google.com/search?q=winnie+the+pooh+xi+jinping&o... Really not seeing any resemblance... ?

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2018/aug/07/china-bans-win...
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