A Cultural History of Fat

usmanshaikh06 wrote: post #2

This article does not discuss in depth the change in diet from mainly protein and fat based diets of the hunter-gatherers to carb-rich diet of today.

Were all hunter-gatherer diets protein and fat based? https://www.scientificamerican.com/media/inline/paleo-diet-h...

Re: A Cultural History of Fat

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Post by pygy_ » Mon, Feb 25, 2019, 9:22 AM UTC

A company that produces food that is more appetizing and less filling than its competitors will sell more of it and beat them in terms of revenue and profit. They either have to align themselves or die/be assimilated.

Even without any ill intent, growth seeking in the food industry would have lead to an obesity epidemics.

https://soundcloud.com/user-876103472/grow

Re: A Cultural History of Fat

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Post by salty_biscuits » Mon, Feb 25, 2019, 9:29 AM UTC

usmanshaikh06 wrote: post #2

This article does not discuss in depth the change in diet from mainly protein and fat based diets of the hunter-gatherers to carb-rich diet of today.

Hunter gathers ate whatever they could get, so varied a lot from place to place. As I understand it the Hadza's main source of calories is from tubers, so lots of carbs, just lots of fibre too.

Re: A Cultural History of Fat

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Post by mhd » Mon, Feb 25, 2019, 9:37 AM UTC

usmanshaikh06 wrote: post #2

This article does not discuss in depth the change in diet from mainly protein and fat based diets of the hunter-gatherers to carb-rich diet of today.

Oh, the paleo myths are still a thing?

Re: A Cultural History of Fat

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Post by glastra » Mon, Feb 25, 2019, 9:49 AM UTC

pygy_ wrote: post #5

A company that produces food that is more appetizing and less filling than its competitors will sell more of it and beat them in terms of revenue and profit. They either have to align themselves or die/be assimilated. Even without any ill intent, growth seeking in the food industry would have lead to an obesity epidemics. https://soundcloud.com/user-876103472/grow

I find "appetising" and "less filling" are understatements.

When I think of the food industry, I tend to think more in terms of "behaviour reinforcement" and "psycho- and physiological addiction".

Re: A Cultural History of Fat

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Post by pygy_ » Mon, Feb 25, 2019, 9:57 AM UTC

glastra wrote: post #8

pygy_ wrote: post #5

A company that produces food that is more appetizing and less filling than its competitors will sell more of it and beat them in terms of revenue and profit. They either have to align themselves or die/be assimilated. Even without any ill intent, growth seeking in the food industry would have lead to an obesity epidemics. https://soundcloud.com/user-876103472/grow

I find "appetising" and "less filling" are understatements. When I think of the food industry, I tend to think more in terms of "behaviour reinforcement" and "psycho- and physiological addiction".

That's where "ill intent" kicks in.

Re: A Cultural History of Fat

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Post by pygy_ » Mon, Feb 25, 2019, 10:01 AM UTC

usmanshaikh06 wrote: post #2

This article does not discuss in depth the change in diet from mainly protein and fat based diets of the hunter-gatherers to carb-rich diet of today.

We've had a carb rich diet since the neolithic revolution.

The obesity epidemics started after WW2.

I don't think that they are related.