Live data from Hacker News

Linux Problems on the Desktop (2018)

itvision.altervista.org

91–100 of 402 posts

Re: Linux Problems on the Desktop (2018)

#91

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Aren’t computers just a hack of physics laws? I think the line between a hack and genuine software is more blurry than what we would assume.

A “rock we tricked into thinking.”

A bunch of sand powered by spinning rocks.

Re: Linux Problems on the Desktop (2018)

#92
post #71

What I get out of this is that while each of these issues may be individually dismissed, they together make for a very "non-premium" experience. I use linux myself, but when people I know try it out, they immediately leave after encountering problems with audio, dpi scaling, etc

Try OpenSuse, it has the best hardware support by far.

Did you read the comment you were replying to, or TFA?

The issue isn't even remotely just poor hardware support.

Re: Linux Problems on the Desktop (2018)

#94

I've been running KDE Neon on NUC for a while, and Kubuntu before that since KDE 3.5 days. But still it's not ready to become my primary desktop. The main issue for me is RDP-like (not VNC-like) remote desktop experience. Without that I'm not even gonna try. I mean the kind where I check my desktop before I leave for work, resume the session remotely from work (when compiling or whatever), and pick up when I get home…

Apple somehow has fast VNC between its computers. Anyone know why it’s so much better? Disclaimer: I work for Apple, but nothing related to VNC.

Compared to RDP, Apple’s remote screen sharing is a laggy buggy joke. Still works better than the Linux one, though..

Re: Linux Problems on the Desktop (2018)

#95

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I have found its super dependent on what hardware you get, Especially on laptops. I always pick hardware that works perfectly with linux and I am left with a very premium experience but when using linux on bad hardware like macbooks and broadcom wifi everything just doesn't work right.

I have a MacBook that is malfunctioning under MacOS (it's running at 60-80% CPU usage when idle, known problem, no fix available). I tried installing Linux on it, couldn't get it working at all. I have a Dell XPS15, specifically chosen because the XPS line is supposed to work well with Linux. Numerous problems, all related to drivers. But the main problem is that every time Windows updates it wipes out GRUB. I figure…

I'm using a dell XPS 13 (one of the new ones) and it works wonderfully. I don't run windows on it so I don't have any issues with my bootloader and I saw advice on the internet to get one with no nvidia gpu so I got one with intel graphics.

It really does feel like a OSX level premium feel. The only bit I am missing is fractional dpi scaling which is apparently on the way but turning on big text in accessibility mode works well enough for now.

Re: Linux Problems on the Desktop (2018)

#96
post #54

Linux as the open-sourced work of brilliant software developers wouldn't power most servers if it sucked. But could designing good desktops need more than just good code? Good kernels successfully run code. Good desktops successfully help users. I guess different goals require different designs? Edit: to clarify, I didn't mean desktops don't require well designed software. Just had in mind that a desktop also have to…

Good desktops need more than good kernel code.

Re: Linux Problems on the Desktop (2018)

#97
post #71

What I get out of this is that while each of these issues may be individually dismissed, they together make for a very "non-premium" experience. I use linux myself, but when people I know try it out, they immediately leave after encountering problems with audio, dpi scaling, etc

Try OpenSuse, it has the best hardware support by far.

This is another issue. Have a problem? Don't worry, someone will helpfully tell you to try another distro. Have a problem with that one too? Don't worry, someone will helpfully tell you to try another distro.

Re: Linux Problems on the Desktop (2018)

#98
post #17

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Making the issues known isn't just pointless complaining. Everyone who reads this might potentially be interested in contributing.

Nice strawman. I never said it's pointless complaining.

But you implied it.

Re: Linux Problems on the Desktop (2018)

#99
post #3

All this is true, but not really fair. Count up the issue raised by the OP, and Nvidia really has the most power to stabilize the linux desktop. I read that gamers who want peak performance on Linux can get the proprietary Nvidia drivers running well. So it's possible, but it will never be without the friction of open source running along side signed proprietary binaries. What I would love to know is why linux isn't…

Anyone thinking about gaming on linux should be buying AMD and avoiding nvidia these days, there drivers are fully open source and because of that they work well out of the box and are constantly improving.

> So it's possible, but it will never be without the friction of open source running along side signed proprietary binaries.

AMD are proving otherwise.

> What I would love to know is why linux isn't equal or superior to Apple and Msft in power management.

I think it has now, my old dell laptop now get's a lot more life running ubuntu than it ever did on windows. I get 3-4 hours or more out of it and used to only get a couple under windows.

Re: Linux Problems on the Desktop (2018)

#100
post #9

How about a list of all the things that really work great? I've been using Linux on the desktop for nearly 20 years and I'll have to say it's fantastic, despite the occasional headache, which seems to be at a far less frequency than other major desktop operating systems.

I'm guessing you're relatively tech savvy and enjoy troubleshooting (within reason). Most people aren't, of course.

I contest that many of us tech savvy folk still don't like Linux, and not just because it is different, but because it has significant problems that make it more of a headache for our workflows than other OSs. I wish that weren't the case. I'd love to be using an open OS, but Linux's ways of doing things doesn't mesh with how I work.
Post reply on HN