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Re: New ‘past’ link on HN front page

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Post by bredren »

polishTar wrote: post #91
HelloFellowDevs wrote: post #83

I'm actually really interested in this addition. I'm just going back to 'big' days, such as financial crash. When I started HS when I finished HS, when I started College. A few articles are interesting, it's definitely better than bumbling around Algolia. Edit: One great link is this one > Google Making Extraordinary Counteroffers To Stop Flow Of Employees To Facebook [1] [1]( https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=165…

>>no reason their stock won’t hit $100 billion in total valuation over the next couple of years. >That's got to be a joke. Love it!

I had to look this up, here's FB's historical market cap: https://ycharts.com/companies/FB/market_cap

Re: New ‘past’ link on HN front page

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Post by yread »

eterps wrote: post #22

Only now I realized that I use https://hckrnews.com for so many years that I have come to think of it as the actual HN front page. It's hard to imagine something better.

Lately, I have a feeling that hckrnews surfaces the wrong type of posts - stuff that quickly reaches 3 points. But it's often flamebait, clickbait or some useless drama. I often go back to the home page to find posts that don't appear on hckrnews but are quite interesting in a niche or need to be fully digested to appreciate.

That said I also love hckrnews for checking what's new after a longer time

Re: New ‘past’ link on HN front page

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gnicholas wrote: post #140

I'm curious how the algorithm works, as it doesn't seem to work as I'd expected. My first thought was to go back and look at the day I launched my startup with at Show HN [1], which got over 700 points and was at #1 from roughly noon to 2 AM the next day (PT). Sure enough, this post shows up in the #2 slot on the day I posted it (Sept 5, 2013) [2], but it doesn't show up at all on the following day [3]. This is stran…

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Re: New ‘past’ link on HN front page

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Post by atoko »

gnicholas wrote: post #140

I'm curious how the algorithm works, as it doesn't seem to work as I'd expected. My first thought was to go back and look at the day I launched my startup with at Show HN [1], which got over 700 points and was at #1 from roughly noon to 2 AM the next day (PT). Sure enough, this post shows up in the #2 slot on the day I posted it (Sept 5, 2013) [2], but it doesn't show up at all on the following day [3]. This is stran…

It’s probably rendering what would be “front page” given the same data but with today’s engine.

It would be interesting to see how everything is being cached for a particular day, though.

Re: New ‘past’ link on HN front page

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Post by gnicholas »

atoko wrote: post #144
gnicholas wrote: post #140

I'm curious how the algorithm works, as it doesn't seem to work as I'd expected. My first thought was to go back and look at the day I launched my startup with at Show HN [1], which got over 700 points and was at #1 from roughly noon to 2 AM the next day (PT). Sure enough, this post shows up in the #2 slot on the day I posted it (Sept 5, 2013) [2], but it doesn't show up at all on the following day [3]. This is stran…

It’s probably rendering what would be “front page” given the same data but with today’s engine. It would be interesting to see how everything is being cached for a particular day, though.

That’s certainly a possibility, and it’s quite possible that the current algorithm either has more gravity or is not as favorable to Show HN posts. Either change would explain why this particular post would be treated as if it hadn’t been on the front page at all on the day after posting.

If this is the case, it should be clarified that this feature uses the current algorithm, which may not reflect how things ranked on a given day.

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Post by arendtio »

J_cst wrote: post #139

I feel that the top navigation "more" link could be renamed into "popular by date" or "yesterday's popular". Those labels appear more accurate to me and better convey the functionality of the current top "more" link. Moreover having two links with the same name on the same page which behave differently seems misleading.

In fact, I was wondering why someone would want to change the 'More' link at the bottom of the page. Took me a moment to realize there is another one in the header now.

Re: New ‘past’ link on HN front page

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Post by zer »

eterps wrote: post #22

Only now I realized that I use https://hckrnews.com for so many years that I have come to think of it as the actual HN front page. It's hard to imagine something better.

I use http://hn.premii.com/

I believed it to be more popular but it seems no one has mentioned that site so far...

Re: New ‘past’ link on HN front page

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Post by redsparrow »

eterps wrote: post #22

Only now I realized that I use https://hckrnews.com for so many years that I have come to think of it as the actual HN front page. It's hard to imagine something better.

For me the front page is the "last 24 hours" view on hn.algolia.com.

https://hn.algolia.com/?query=&sort=byPopularity&prefix&page...

It can also show the stories from arbitrary periods including single days like in the new "more" feature being discussed but it orders them by points rather than how long they were on the (real) front page.

Re: New ‘past’ link on HN front page

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Post by testplzignore »

dang wrote: post #3

Not new; just the link at the top is new. The hard part was what to call it. Since the point is to give people more to read, 'more' seemed right. https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=12073675 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=18512028 Edit: Oh, also: "more" fits with the "More" links you see at the bottom of the front page and other places, clicking which takes you back to previous posts. Edit 2: Ok, you guys have…

It's organized by days, so how about "daily"? Nice short word that is intuitive to me.

Re: New ‘past’ link on HN front page

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Post by OJFord »

J_cst wrote: post #139

I feel that the top navigation "more" link could be renamed into "popular by date" or "yesterday's popular". Those labels appear more accurate to me and better convey the functionality of the current top "more" link. Moreover having two links with the same name on the same page which behave differently seems misleading.

Or 'old' - it's already next to 'new'.
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