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New York governor orders probe into Facebook access to data from other apps

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Re: New York governor orders probe into Facebook access to data from other apps

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The scariest thing about Facebook is that they allow advertisers to target by e-mail. This has a number of implications. Say I want to target a specific individual. I create a bunch of fake profiles to meet the minimum number of required e-mails for an ad and then launch it. This way the only real person who's gonna see it is the one I'm targeting. Now imagine running this scheme with everyone you know. Your ex, frie…

This scheme would only work assuming those people are all on facebook and actively use it, correct?

Yes. And they have to use the same e-mail with the one you know.

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nit, > Facebook is facing a slew of lawsuits and regulatory inquiries over privacy issues, including a U.S. Federal Trade Commission investigation into disclosures that Facebook inappropriately shared information belonging to 87 million users with the defunct British political consulting firm Cambridge Analytica. Cambridge Analytica is not defunct, but rather changed its name to Emerdata. It's too bad Reuters didn't…

>Cambridge Analytica is not defunct, but rather changed its name to Emerdata. It's too bad Reuters didn't get that part correct. That's not true, I used to work there. Everyone was laid off in July or so. I haven't heard of anyone joining Emerdata, and I do see those guys now and again. I know where all the technical people work. Emerdata was created before the media shitstorm to absorb all the pointless corporate en…

thanks for this perspective.

Re: New York governor orders probe into Facebook access to data from other apps

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> "The report said that the company can access data in some cases even when the user is not signed into Facebook or does not have a Facebook account." I realize frivolous comments on HN are frowned upon but frankly this leaves me speechless.

You know, uninstalling all the apps and starting fresh is exactly what I've been wanting to do for a while. Now I have the motivation for it. Goodjob developers (ones with the Facebook SDK), you played yourself.

Re: New York governor orders probe into Facebook access to data from other apps

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Serious question: what do people expect will come up from all these lawsuits? AFAIK Facebook has been sued over and over again since almost the beginning. None of these suits are criminal in nature so noone will go to jail. Even with billion dollar penalty these are penuts and usually gets the stock up now that investors know this specific case is closed. So really whats the purpose of all of this? Its like hitting Moon with millions of asteroids and whether craterred or not, it keeps spinning.

Re: New York governor orders probe into Facebook access to data from other apps

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nit, > Facebook is facing a slew of lawsuits and regulatory inquiries over privacy issues, including a U.S. Federal Trade Commission investigation into disclosures that Facebook inappropriately shared information belonging to 87 million users with the defunct British political consulting firm Cambridge Analytica. Cambridge Analytica is not defunct, but rather changed its name to Emerdata. It's too bad Reuters didn't…

Funny, I went looking for that quote and the word ‘defunct’ seems to have been removed. Maybe TheReg reads HN.

Re: New York governor orders probe into Facebook access to data from other apps

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> If someone offers you something of value for free, politely say "no thanks" and run the other way. Where does free software fit in this?

It's great that "if it's free, you should run away" or "if you're not the customer, you're the product" or any of those other sayings are finally been seen as extremely reductive.

> It's great that "if it's free, you should run away" or "if you're not the customer, you're the product" or any of those other sayings are finally been seen as extremely reductive.

Is it really the case that we've forgotten "There's no such thing as a free lunch?"

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Ever wonder why Facebook is giving everyone on earth so much free software and processing power? They seem to be making money, how do they do it? [10 minutes of deep thought] Ok, we get it. If someone offers you something of value for free, politely say "no thanks" and run the other way. Edit: If a for-profit company offers you something of value at no cost, you or someone else will end up paying for it later. Advert…

Most everything on the internet is free...so are you saying we should just stop using it?

> Most everything on the internet is free...so are you saying we should just stop using it?

Free in what sense? We need to stop constraining the notion of "free" to monetary value.

Re: New York governor orders probe into Facebook access to data from other apps

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> If someone offers you something of value for free, politely say "no thanks" and run the other way. You are explicitely asking people to think for themselves and understand what’s going on. From this point of view I think that last bit feels mantra like and going on the opposite. The same way “if you’re not the customer you’re the product” was relevant in some cases but has started a life on its own and could go con…

I might nit and say that a lot of these things (especially vaccination and legal representation) are subsidized, the government or insurance is paying so you can get it for “free”.

> I might nit and say that a lot of these things (especially vaccination and legal representation) are subsidized, the government or insurance is paying so you can get it for “free”.

This is not free except in the narrowest sense.

Re: New York governor orders probe into Facebook access to data from other apps

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Serious question: what do people expect will come up from all these lawsuits? AFAIK Facebook has been sued over and over again since almost the beginning. None of these suits are criminal in nature so noone will go to jail. Even with billion dollar penalty these are penuts and usually gets the stock up now that investors know this specific case is closed. So really whats the purpose of all of this? Its like hitting M…

The point of a lawsuit isn't to destroy Facebook or its leadership. It's to stop them from doing some specific thing, and get compensation for the damage that specific thing caused.
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