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Re: Netherlands, Finland, Luxembourg, Poland and Italy Oppose EU Copyright Directive

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Post by TACIXAT » Fri, Feb 22, 2019, 8:02 AM UTC

porpoisely wrote: post #148

TACIXAT wrote: post #130

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Not a racial paradise, but a relatively young place where there is less adherence to that stuff. LA riots were a long time ago. Largest white supremacist population? So what's that mean, a few thousand? My high school had what was labeled as a race riot by some media. [1 for a link to the event] On the other hand, looking past a shitty week, that high school was incredibly diverse, and I'm thankful I got to hang out…

What you are describing are diverse cities, not california as a whole. NY is even more diverse than than california if you just pick a diverse city and extrapolate that to the entire state. If you want global, it doesn't get any more global than NYC. Not sure why you are pretending california or LA is special. The only thing california has going for it is great weather and constant flow of chinese money and a tech bu…

I lived in NJ / NY for a few years during school. It's diverse but people also want to know what group you belong to. Are you Polish? Are you Italian? To be honest, I don't really know. I'm beach people.

As a side note, you're incredibly negative. California is nice and I like it more than all the other places I've lived.

Re: Netherlands, Finland, Luxembourg, Poland and Italy Oppose EU Copyright Directive

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Post by isostatic » Fri, Feb 22, 2019, 10:42 AM UTC

makomk wrote: post #158

isostatic wrote: post #155

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> No, it really isn't the same as the UK. For a start, the ability for backbenchers to propose laws isn't merely theoretical - they actually do it, and occasionally some of them become laws. https://uk.news.yahoo.com/christopher-chope-wrong-object-fgm... In practice backbenchers can't get laws past because of MPs like Chope. > Also, our ministers are all elected politicians who can be voted out Not by me, my MP is a…

You know why 56% of MEPs voted for him, right? It wasn't because they necessarily supported him - before the elections, the major parties entered into an agreement where they'd vote for the candidate backed by whichever party got the most seats from now on and only that person, essentially meaning that party's candidate was guaranteed the job despite having a minority of less than 30%. Again, this is nothing like how…

> the major parties entered into an agreement where they'd vote for the candidate backed by whichever party got the most seats

That's wrong. The only pre-election statement was that the president should be someone who had campaigned for it. It wasn't until after the election that the parties agreed that EPP should have first shot as the largest party.

The S&D for example demanded budget changes for their backing of Juncker, and I believe Parliament presidency, the negotiations continued for some time before they agreed to back him.

If you want to talk about democratic deficit, In the UK in 2005 the Labour and Cooperative parties got a combined 35% of the vote - barely more than the EPP in 2014 - but they got 100% of the power.

Re: Netherlands, Finland, Luxembourg, Poland and Italy Oppose EU Copyright Directive

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Post by throwawaymanbot » Fri, Feb 22, 2019, 1:41 PM UTC

Poland AND Italy who both have (being polite) "Populist" govts installed (undermining democracy in polands case), working to help youtube and facebook, which have been shown to be valuable tools of indoctrination and false information spreading for "populists"...

Who'd have thunk that!!

Re: Netherlands, Finland, Luxembourg, Poland and Italy Oppose EU Copyright Directive

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Post by nec4b » Fri, Feb 22, 2019, 4:53 PM UTC

adrianN wrote: post #160

nec4b wrote: post #156

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Any German person has an order of magnitude more in common with an another German person than it has with any other person from a different EU country. It has nothing to do with overestimating or underestimating similarities when the effects are an order of magnitude apart. I encourage you to travel around Europe and interact with locals to see the difference yourself.

I have traveled and interacted with the locals, which is where I got my opinion from. Travel and interaction is so much easier now than when Germany was split into different states that cultural similarity in Europe is much greater now than it has ever been.

For me the experience is the opposite from what yours is. Cities, homes, food, temperament in my experience change completely when you cross a border from Germany to France. There really is no parallel between unification of German states to EU integration. For example do you really feel that someone from Munich is culturally as similar to someone from Venice as to someone from Leipzig?