Isn't this the second time they've done this whole vpn thing? What's stopping them from rebranding it again and reselling it under a different name only to be caught again so they then say "we're gonna stop" and then rinse and repeat.
Facebook Will Shut Down Its Spyware VPN App Onavo
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#22Don't believe a word they are saying.
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#23It’s a shame because I used Onavo before it was acquired and back in the days of limited mobile data plans it really reduced my bills. I didn’t trust FB so ditched it right after they got bought (feeling validated!). However it got me thinking. What if FB and others went to the popular VPN services (like ExpressVPN) and said ‘here’s $xxx million - could you share aggregate data about visits to our competitors’. How m…
A lot of these VPN services already sell their data to 3rd parties.
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#24Earlier quoted context omitted.
Governments need to stop trying to regulate everything so hard it stifles business then. Without Uber taxis would be even worse than they are today.
In the USA perhaps. Some of the other countries they operate in had and have taxis, and food delivery, that work just fine. All Uber has done is introduce unreliable, heavily subsidised - and therefore unfair - competition. It's the Walmart model: Make a loss until the others go under thanks to deepest pockets. When none remain, raise prices markedly.
Ah, so that's what it's called. I thought that was the Amazon model.
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#25It’s a shame because I used Onavo before it was acquired and back in the days of limited mobile data plans it really reduced my bills. I didn’t trust FB so ditched it right after they got bought (feeling validated!). However it got me thinking. What if FB and others went to the popular VPN services (like ExpressVPN) and said ‘here’s $xxx million - could you share aggregate data about visits to our competitors’. How m…
A lot of these VPN services already sell their data to 3rd parties.
Including governments- who sometimes own them via secret service blackfunds.
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#26I'm disappointed that Google was fine with Onavo being in the Play Store and it took Facebook (!) itself to actually remove the app.
I would much rather Google allow this and let users decide than the opposite.
It's trivial to install Google-unlisted software, so users can decide either way.
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#27> A Facebook spokesperson claimed in a statement that “there was nothing ‘secret’ about this”, yet it had threatened legal action if users publicly discussed the Research program. Will wonders never cease?
The cavalier attitude says to me that this company is still a start up at heart. Early-stage companies often break a lot of rules that’s how you get big. Facebook is just still doing it.
Please don't attribute Facebook's lack of values to all other startups, that's a gross generalization.
A company's values reflects the values of its people, especially the founding people. Facebook's immoral behavior can be traced all the way back to its start and ultimately its maker.
Privacy is not a principle Facebook is willing to act on.
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#28> A Facebook spokesperson claimed in a statement that “there was nothing ‘secret’ about this”, yet it had threatened legal action if users publicly discussed the Research program. Will wonders never cease?
NDA's are ripe for abuse, and should be severely limited by law.
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#29Earlier quoted context omitted.
The cavalier attitude says to me that this company is still a start up at heart. Early-stage companies often break a lot of rules that’s how you get big. Facebook is just still doing it.
Please don't attribute Facebook's lack of values to all other startups, that's a gross generalization. A company's values reflects the values of its people, especially the founding people. Facebook's immoral behavior can be traced all the way back to its start and ultimately its maker. Privacy is not a principle Facebook is willing to act on.
I didn’t say anything about values.
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#30They supposedly shutdown Onavo on the iPhone.... only to just resubmit it under another name. Accordingly I'm a bit skeptical about how much of a shutdown happens here.
> only to just resubmit it under another name
The facebook paid research program existed for years before the onavo shutdown