Redis Labs Changes Its Open-Source License Again

Post by kodablah » Fri, Feb 22, 2019, 1:18 AM UTC

tcd wrote: post #20

kodablah wrote: post #19

> the community now understands that the original concept of open source has to be fixed because it isn’t suitable anymore to the modern era where cloud companies use their monopoly power to adopt any successful open source project without contributing anything to it. Assuming "community" means general open source devs/users, this doesn't speak for everyone. The (admittedly small) stuff I make open source is given to…

> I don't feel "taken advantage of" when my code is taken, used in secret, and nothing is given back. I'm glad I could help. If you make a new technology and an entity bigger than you comes along and makes profit, gives you no credit and contributes nothing in return, you are not going to be "glad to help", you're going to want something in return. These companies do not contribute so they're required to adopt the ne…

Post by xj9 » Fri, Feb 22, 2019, 1:23 AM UTC

tcd wrote: post #20

kodablah wrote: post #19

> the community now understands that the original concept of open source has to be fixed because it isn’t suitable anymore to the modern era where cloud companies use their monopoly power to adopt any successful open source project without contributing anything to it. Assuming "community" means general open source devs/users, this doesn't speak for everyone. The (admittedly small) stuff I make open source is given to…

> I don't feel "taken advantage of" when my code is taken, used in secret, and nothing is given back. I'm glad I could help. If you make a new technology and an entity bigger than you comes along and makes profit, gives you no credit and contributes nothing in return, you are not going to be "glad to help", you're going to want something in return. These companies do not contribute so they're required to adopt the ne…

Post by spectre256 » Fri, Feb 22, 2019, 1:30 AM UTC

djsumdog wrote: post #14

omeid2 wrote: post #11

"The community now understands that the original concept of open source has to be fixed." The open source issue is fixed, it is called AGPL. However, the issue that Redis along many other suffering from is called brutal competition, it is not even just tech or open source tech, Amazon is eating everyone's lunch. I don't have any idea how this problem can be solved. But, I know that restricting building API compatible…

If Redis had some big product people used, and their Redis server was just a middleware component, it could be a great side business where they sell support, but not the primary business. All the other big players like Google/Facebook will open source those middle pieces to help people who will make apps that will most likely have to interact with their platforms. They'll never release the source to actual end produc…

Post by iceninenines » Fri, Feb 22, 2019, 1:46 AM UTC

SloopJon wrote: post #5

"The community now understands that the original concept of open source has to be fixed." Well, how lucky for the community that a wise startup came along and fixed open source. I get that open source business models are hard, especially in an increasingly commoditized space like databases. Still, it rubs me the wrong way when a business wants the goodwill of open source, then tries its hardest to bend the rules in i…

Post by bpicolo » Fri, Feb 22, 2019, 1:55 AM UTC

omeid2 wrote: post #17

djsumdog wrote: post #14

Earlier quoted context omitted.

If Redis had some big product people used, and their Redis server was just a middleware component, it could be a great side business where they sell support, but not the primary business. All the other big players like Google/Facebook will open source those middle pieces to help people who will make apps that will most likely have to interact with their platforms. They'll never release the source to actual end produc…

Even with closed source software, Amazon will eat your lunch, even if you're Microsoft: AWS WorkMail is Exchange compatible. It is a hard problem.