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American Airlines Has Cameras in Their Screens Too

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Re: American Airlines Has Cameras in Their Screens Too

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Post by xkcd-sucks »

ngngngng wrote: post #142
SketchySeaBeast wrote: post #116

They already take a high resolution back scatter shot of my genitals on the way in, what's a little more humiliation among friends? If they want to spend 6 hours watching me make pained expressions as I shift and turn and feel the bits that make me human slowly slip away, leaving me a crippled, grunting inhuman beast by the time I get out of the aluminum can full of other peoples farts, I guess they are welcome to it…

For all the crap we give China and their authoritarian government, airport security is FAR easier at every Chinese airport I've been to. Walk through a metal detector and get a quick non-invasive pat down.

Yeah really. I've gone through security with pretty big knives by accident and gotten "啊!你的水果刀" "your fruit knife", and it was apologetically confiscated with little hassle. Although I'm sure stereotyping (white skin not poor) worked positively in my favor. While in the US, for example, I go through with cup of demonstrably potable liquid and have to do some petty compliance exercise like take a walk around the terminal and wait in line to be screened by the same person again. I think it might have do do with rule by law vs rule of law

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Post by alanlamm »

xkcd-sucks wrote: post #211
ngngngng wrote: post #142

Earlier quoted context omitted.

For all the crap we give China and their authoritarian government, airport security is FAR easier at every Chinese airport I've been to. Walk through a metal detector and get a quick non-invasive pat down.

Yeah really. I've gone through security with pretty big knives by accident and gotten "啊!你的水果刀" "your fruit knife", and it was apologetically confiscated with little hassle. Although I'm sure stereotyping (white skin not poor) worked positively in my favor. While in the US, for example, I go through with cup of demonstrably potable liquid and have to do some petty compliance exercise like take a walk around the termi…

I hve never been to China but in my experience american airport security and immigration is nasty as compared to other perfectly free and democratic countries.

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Post by sys_64738 »

These cameras will eventually be enabled plus they're pointing at your face. This becomes especially important when facial recognition software gets to the point that it can, with high probability, capture your mood. If you look angry or aggressive then you are a risk to a safe flight. It might get to the point where you're escorted from the plane before it takes off due to you looking mad because you couldn't find an overhead bin. An extension of this would be for air marshals to Taser you inflight before you can causes an incident, all because you look drunk or look mad due to sneezing giving you a red face.

Re: American Airlines Has Cameras in Their Screens Too

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Post by ngngngng »

alanlamm wrote: post #212
xkcd-sucks wrote: post #211

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Yeah really. I've gone through security with pretty big knives by accident and gotten "啊!你的水果刀" "your fruit knife", and it was apologetically confiscated with little hassle. Although I'm sure stereotyping (white skin not poor) worked positively in my favor. While in the US, for example, I go through with cup of demonstrably potable liquid and have to do some petty compliance exercise like take a walk around the termi…

I hve never been to China but in my experience american airport security and immigration is nasty as compared to other perfectly free and democratic countries.

In my experience, the absolute worst immigration and airport security is found in the US and the UK. I've never been so harassed, and i'm a US citizen and a generic looking white guy. Can't imagine how bad it would be if I wasn't.

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Post by monksy »

bpye wrote: post #52
filmgirlcw wrote: post #33

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I think part of this is exonolies of scale, but also the basis of how much faster/cheaper it is to build/maintain an Android-based interface is my thought. Delta and GoGo just launched a “wireless IFE” on the new A220 that is basically just a customized Android tablet sucking down/streaming the IFE stuff from a server either in the back of the plane or from satellites using the 2k WiFi system (likely the server on th…

Using WiFi would be very surprising for most content, but it would be interesting to have live TV on aircraft.

Emirates has live TV. Granted it's limited but it's there.

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Post by pmohun »

SketchySeaBeast wrote: post #116

They already take a high resolution back scatter shot of my genitals on the way in, what's a little more humiliation among friends? If they want to spend 6 hours watching me make pained expressions as I shift and turn and feel the bits that make me human slowly slip away, leaving me a crippled, grunting inhuman beast by the time I get out of the aluminum can full of other peoples farts, I guess they are welcome to it…

I don't have an input on the potential security risks of pen cameras on airlines, but I do have an opinion on your description of economy travel on modern airlines.

It's spot on, and unbelievable to me that there are no other options available for air travel. With the amount of time business executives spend in the air I have to imagine there is an airline company out there modeling the business case for increased ticket prices with the justification of companies subsidizing to make up for lost productivity.

- written from the 3rd flight I've taken this week

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Post by King-Aaron »

It's been about a year or so since I've flown, but from memory there were tablets on my last QANTAS flight that also had run of the mill hardware cameras on the tablets. They looked like any ol' chinese made tablet to be honest, I didn't think too much of it.

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Post by free652 »

ngngngng wrote: post #214
alanlamm wrote: post #212

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I hve never been to China but in my experience american airport security and immigration is nasty as compared to other perfectly free and democratic countries.

In my experience, the absolute worst immigration and airport security is found in the US and the UK. I've never been so harassed, and i'm a US citizen and a generic looking white guy. Can't imagine how bad it would be if I wasn't.

Never had a problem in US, but had few nightmares in Spain and Germany. 30 mins "detentions" for extra screening.

Re: American Airlines Has Cameras in Their Screens Too

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Post by yesenadam »

na85 wrote: post #44
r00fus wrote: post #40

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It makes one question if there was an ulterior motive. That or complete disconnect with customer priorities (oh, they won't care).

It's actually a complete "connect" with customer priorities. Most people don't care (yet) about their privacy, as evidenced by the scads of money that scummy data companies like Facebook et al are making selling our lives to advertisers.

That's no kind of evidence. There is at least one hidden premise to your argument, something like "If people cared about their privacy, they wouldn't use Facebook et al", which doesn't seem true to me at all. You first need evidence for that. But these points have been debated a thousand times on HN already... (Anecdatally, I hate that such sites sell peoples' information, but I use FB)

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Post by exabrial »

SketchySeaBeast wrote: post #136
exabrial wrote: post #128

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I've yet to go through any of these machines since they were implemented. I have opted out every flight, every time.

In that case they don't have a picture, but they do know what they feel like, and if they don't, it just takes one ornery TSA agent for it to happen. It's a thoroughly miserable process no matter what way you slice it.

I need to fly on st patricks so I have excuse to wear one my tac kilts. Fun for everyone!
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