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American Airlines Has Cameras in Their Screens Too

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Re: American Airlines Has Cameras in Their Screens Too

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Post by mattlondon »

techer wrote: post #36
chooseaname wrote: post #18

Earlier quoted context omitted.

If I'm walking around, say, the Grand Canyon, you know, up top looking down. If someone is walking around filming a travel vlog and I happen to get filmed, ok, so what? Right? But if they run up and shove the camera in my face without asking for permission, that becomes rude and I should absolutely have some say in it. If I'm in an airline, I should have some say if there's going to be a camera facing me the ... enti…

Depends in what country you are. Don't need your permission in the USA or the UK.

In the UK, this sort of thing (putting camera right in your face against your wishes, more than once) might be considered harassment, even in a public place.

Re: American Airlines Has Cameras in Their Screens Too

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Post by reaperducer »

bpye wrote: post #52
filmgirlcw wrote: post #33

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I think part of this is exonolies of scale, but also the basis of how much faster/cheaper it is to build/maintain an Android-based interface is my thought. Delta and GoGo just launched a “wireless IFE” on the new A220 that is basically just a customized Android tablet sucking down/streaming the IFE stuff from a server either in the back of the plane or from satellites using the 2k WiFi system (likely the server on th…

Using WiFi would be very surprising for most content, but it would be interesting to have live TV on aircraft.

Using WiFi would be very surprising for most content, but it would be interesting to have live TV on aircraft.

There are a few airlines with live TV. I think Southwest and JetBlue, but I could be wrong because mostly I sleep on planes.

Re: American Airlines Has Cameras in Their Screens Too

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Post by exabrial »

Security concerns aside, I thought the cameras were there so you could swipe in front of it to turn the infotainment system on? Is there proof they are recording? Planes have weight limitations. A long-haul 8-12hr flight for 300 passengers is a significant commitment to storage space and the weight of said drives.

Re: American Airlines Has Cameras in Their Screens Too

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Post by minikites »

I flew on a plane similar to the one cited in the article this past Monday. It was a late night flight and I turned the screen off to try and sleep, only to have the screen turn itself back on (and disable the power button) to show me advertisements. Between this and "smart" TVs that secretly surveil the end user, I'm not optimistic about the future of humane consumer electronics.

Re: American Airlines Has Cameras in Their Screens Too

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Post by _emacsomancer_ »

jbay808 wrote: post #50
filmgirlcw wrote: post #22

I understand why airlines and other industries are using off-the-shelf parts; I actually prefer this because it gets us closer to more modular IFE systems like what Delta/GoGo are doing on the A220, which means airlines can conceivably upgrade their IFE systems more frequently and at lower costs. What I don’t understand is why there aren’t commodify parts available sans cameras, given the myriad of use-cases and the…

>> What I don’t understand is why there aren’t commodify parts available sans cameras, given the myriad of use-cases and the customer volume for camera-free Android Yes. In fact, an acquaintance of mine is staying at a psychiatric hospital being treated for schizophrenia. He has absolutely nothing to do all day and wants to read books from the library. But he can't easily access the library. This is possible (but slo…

It's amazing how much quality-of-life improvement can be had with a relatively cheap Android tablet. I gave one as a gift to a relative who's in a care facility (no issues with microphone or cameras there, so I didn't have to do any modifications) and it's made a noticeable difference.

Re: American Airlines Has Cameras in Their Screens Too

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Post by dgzl »

netsharc wrote: post #60

To me this is just a distraction. Yes there's a hardware camera. I will bet some money that they have not been used nefariously by AA or SQ. Some are raging about the non-existant theoretical privacy violation (again, not 100% non-existant, but I will bet money there's no surveillance through this camera), meanwhile we are ignoring actual privacy violations being done by e.g. Facebook or Twitter, or the millions of a…

You being willing to bet money gives me little confidence.

Re: American Airlines Has Cameras in Their Screens Too

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Post by cronix »

netsharc wrote: post #60

To me this is just a distraction. Yes there's a hardware camera. I will bet some money that they have not been used nefariously by AA or SQ. Some are raging about the non-existant theoretical privacy violation (again, not 100% non-existant, but I will bet money there's no surveillance through this camera), meanwhile we are ignoring actual privacy violations being done by e.g. Facebook or Twitter, or the millions of a…

> One might say "But what about hackers?", luckily unlike Alexa or Google Home, it's hard for hackers to tinker with one these devices and find remotely-triggerable exploits.

Yes, very hard for people with skills, indeed.

https://thehackernews.com/2016/12/hacking-in-flight-system.h...

https://www.wired.com/2015/05/feds-say-banned-researcher-com...

https://ioactive.com/in-flight-hacking-system/

Re: American Airlines Has Cameras in Their Screens Too

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Post by yters »

It's ironic that in the book 1984 all the citizens have hidden cameras in their TVs. Today, in 2019, all the citizens have non-hidden cameras and microphones in pretty much every electronic device they use. We also have the customary day of rage, where we all direct our collective rage at some political opponent. Don't get me started on the butchering of the English language...
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