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Playboy Interview with Steven Jobs Circa 1985

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Re: Playboy Interview with Steven Jobs Circa 1985

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It's rare that you see an artist in his 30s or 40s able to really contribute something amazing

It is interesting to note that Steve Jobs' biggest hits came in his 30's, 40's and gasp 50's dwarfing what he did in his 20's.

30's - NEXT and foundation for MacOS X

40's - iPod, iTunes

50's - iPhone, iPad

Re: Playboy Interview with Steven Jobs Circa 1985

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post #19

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Sorry, that's not irony either, you perhaps mean an amusing coincidence. Not being a gramar nazi but the word "irony" has a very precise meaning, misusing it devalues the language. Explicit in the notion of irony is contradiction, e.g. saying one thing while meaning the opposite (such as saying about the Kin mobile phone "now there was a successful product"). Sorry, personal bugbear, my problem.

Actually it doesn't have to be the opposite. It just has to be something repurposed into a context not intended by the original meaning.

Granted, the original claim of irony was still incorrect.

EDIT: no, actualy I still disagree. Mere 'repurposing' in the "black is white" sense is not enough, there has to be contradiction.

Re: Playboy Interview with Steven Jobs Circa 1985

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Interesting retrospective future-predicting-ish: Playboy: More important, are you ignoring your potentially biggest rival, A.T.&T.? Jobs: A.T.&T.. is absolutely going to be in the business. There is a major transformation in the company that's taking place right now. A.T.&T. is changing from a subsidized and regulated service-oriented company to a free-market, competitive-marketing technology company. A.T.&T.'s produ…

A.T.&T.'s products per se have never been of the highest quality. All you have to do is go look at their telephones. They're somewhat of an embarrassment

Huh. That's weird. AT&T phones were built like brick shithouses, for the most part. I wonder what model(s) he had in mind when he said that?

Re: Playboy Interview with Steven Jobs Circa 1985

#35

This parenthetical caught my eye: "(It is also worth noting that of the 100 Americans named by Forbes, Jobs is one of only seven who made their fortunes on their own.) " My, how things have changed.

Now how many people are on the Forbes' list of 100 richest Americans who made their fortunes "on their own"? (Not to diminish the work of those who started with "more" in life.)

"(Not to diminish the work of those who started with "more" in life.)"

Assuming they've done any work?

Re: Playboy Interview with Steven Jobs Circa 1985

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post #31

It's rare that you see an artist in his 30s or 40s able to really contribute something amazing It is interesting to note that Steve Jobs' biggest hits came in his 30's, 40's and gasp 50's dwarfing what he did in his 20's. 30's - NEXT and foundation for MacOS X 40's - iPod, iTunes 50's - iPhone, iPad

Also: Toy Story was made at the tail end of his 30s. (It came out the year he turned 40).

Re: Playboy Interview with Steven Jobs Circa 1985

#37

I love his answer to "Maybe we should pause and get your definition of what a computer is. How do they work?" It would be really interesting to see how he would answer that question now.

"At 1,000,000 per second, the results appear to be magic.

That's a simple explanation, and the point is that people really don't have to understand how computers work. Most people have no concept of how an automatic transmission works, yet they know how to drive a car. You don't have to study physics to understand the laws of motion to drive a car. You don't have to understand any of this stuff to use Macintosh--but you asked [laughs]."

Jobs has been on point for a while now; he's a man with ideals and beliefs about technology and its role in society. He has been on point with this message for literally decades and he has seen his ideas through to creation time and time again.

That's worthy of respect.

Re: Playboy Interview with Steven Jobs Circa 1985

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post #8

I love the absolute irony of an article, printed in its day to carefully explain to people what Silicon Valley was, what a computer was, and what it was all about. Preserved for eternity on the internet and readable only on computers.

Sorry, that's not irony either, you perhaps mean an amusing coincidence. Not being a gramar nazi but the word "irony" has a very precise meaning, misusing it devalues the language. Explicit in the notion of irony is contradiction, e.g. saying one thing while meaning the opposite (such as saying about the Kin mobile phone "now there was a successful product"). Sorry, personal bugbear, my problem.

The irony is that the article takes pains to describe what a computer is. Now, the only way to read the article is on an online version, and you obviously must know what a computer is in order to read the article. You're unlikely to find old back issues of Playboy in a library. I know what you mean, a more solid use would be if the article had said 'computers will never take off' and now the article is availabe only on computers. Whether it's an amusing coincedence or hard core irony as you describe, I think it's fair use of the term.

Re: Playboy Interview with Steven Jobs Circa 1985

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post #39
post #19

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Sorry, that's not irony either, you perhaps mean an amusing coincidence. Not being a gramar nazi but the word "irony" has a very precise meaning, misusing it devalues the language. Explicit in the notion of irony is contradiction, e.g. saying one thing while meaning the opposite (such as saying about the Kin mobile phone "now there was a successful product"). Sorry, personal bugbear, my problem.

The irony is that the article takes pains to describe what a computer is. Now, the only way to read the article is on an online version, and you obviously must know what a computer is in order to read the article. You're unlikely to find old back issues of Playboy in a library. I know what you mean, a more solid use would be if the article had said 'computers will never take off' and now the article is availabe only…

That's not actually the only way to read it. I have a copy of that particular Playboy issue, which is where I first read this interview. :)
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