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The study in the article tested this hypothesis and refuted it.
It in fact did not test anything about dazzle camouflage. The study [1] (linked by the linked article) did test how predators vision works and determined that Zebras camouflage doesn't serve much purpose at long ranges, but doesn't prove anything about shorter ranges where dazzle camouflage may make it easier for zebras to run away because predators aren't following them accurately. [1]: https://journals.plos.org/plo…
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While it only happens that some traits allowed the species to survive longer (or multiply more), there's still the "reason why" - there's generally a specific mechanism (or multiple mechanisms) how exactly that trait allows the species to survive longer or multiply more. As that particular mechanism is the reason for that trait being useful, it's also the reason (cause) for that trait to having outcompeted other trai…
Well, you are choosing a reason. That doesn't make it the reason. Sure you can say Zebras have black and white stripes because their genes makes them express them in a certain way. However I could say they have stripes because it helps them shoo away flies. Someone else could say they have stripes because it makes them look pretty. Another person yet could say they only seem to have stripes because we can see those c…
There's some mechanism that makes stripes beneficial. Or perhaps there are multiple valid mechanisms - but in that case, one contributes (for example) 70% and the other 30%, and that can (with enough effort) be evaluated, and those mechanisms separated from the other alternative answers that are just guesses.
There are definitive answers. Perhaps they're hard to find out, perhaps they're hard to verify, perhaps for some aspects we'll not find out these definitive answers, but they certainly are there. You may reasonably choose that a particular answer isn't important enough to justify the resources needed to obtain that answer (and zebra stripes may well be a decent example for that), but giving in to the concept "there's really no definitive answer, except whichever one you choose to accept" is just shameful wilful ignorance. Reality is what exists no matter if you choose to accept it or not.
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> which helped previous generations of zebras who had stripes thrive and pass their genes forward. You don't know that. The article doesn't even bother to test it. They've observed that stripes lead to fewer horsefly landings. Interesting. I guess. But, talking about evolution is a non sequitor. Show me the data where a zebra's fecundity is related to the number of horsefly bites it receives. There isn't any. One can…
Animal trypanosomiasis, transmitted by tsetse flies, causes "fever, weakness, and lethargy, which lead to weight loss and anemia; in some animals the disease is fatal unless treated". Doesn't it sound like such diseases are likely to alter a zebra's fecundity?
As far as the effect of 'such diseases' on a zebra's fecundity, I have no idea. For all we know, a feverish lethargic zebra is EASIER for a stallion to mount than a healthy zebra. Nobody knows.
The study, incidentally, did not deal with the types of flies accustomed to biting zebras. I have every reason to think a typical African biting fly would have no problem alighting on a zebra... it's what they do for a living.
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Well, you are choosing a reason. That doesn't make it the reason. Sure you can say Zebras have black and white stripes because their genes makes them express them in a certain way. However I could say they have stripes because it helps them shoo away flies. Someone else could say they have stripes because it makes them look pretty. Another person yet could say they only seem to have stripes because we can see those c…
The choice of reason isn't arbitrary. You could say that they have stripes because it helps them shoo away flies and someone else could say they have stripes because it makes them look pretty - but one (or both) of these answers would be wrong. The hypothesis can be falsified. We could test whether zebras do find stripes pretty in other zebras - perhaps it's not the best way to spend your time and resources, but it c…
Is it? How do you know? You can't prove it. Reality to you is what you experience and you can never know what anyone else is experiencing. Reality is not objective, it depends on an observer. In fact if there are no observers, then there's no way to prove reality exists (and the concept wouldn't even make sense).
Even if there was an objective reality that was the same for all, "a reason" is a made up human concept, it is not a fundamental thing of nature/reality. You are even trying to define what a reason is in your comment.
So I would say, in this case, you calling other people willfully ignorant is just the way you deal with your reality to accept it and reject what the other person is trying to convey.