I’ve used Dvorak for 10 years, and it’s not all that • Hacker News Board

Re: I’ve used Dvorak for 10 years, and it’s not all that

#181

Post by kkarakk » Thu, Feb 21, 2019, 8:17 AM UTC

_ywdj wrote: post #179

kkarakk wrote: post #178

Earlier quoted context omitted.

just goto a doctor and leave this newage stuff in the bin where it belongs. pain management is a different thing from pain alleviation.

Sarno was a conventional physician. Nothing about his theories are "newage" or anti-scientific. Indeed, theories around pain must surely be less scientific if they rely on a dualistic notion of the mind and body being seperate entities. Plenty of people visit mainstream doctors for pain conditions and are told that nothing can be done other than pain medication, which as we're now witnessing, can too often lead to ad…

you've gone into ad hominem territory and are claiming to be a grown adult, i'll let you go about your business but trying to claim it's not quackery will get you shot down in any forum. linking your medical and mental condition breaks down very quickly

Re: I’ve used Dvorak for 10 years, and it’s not all that

#182

Post by _ywdj » Thu, Feb 21, 2019, 9:45 AM UTC

kkarakk wrote: post #181

_ywdj wrote: post #179

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Sarno was a conventional physician. Nothing about his theories are "newage" or anti-scientific. Indeed, theories around pain must surely be less scientific if they rely on a dualistic notion of the mind and body being seperate entities. Plenty of people visit mainstream doctors for pain conditions and are told that nothing can be done other than pain medication, which as we're now witnessing, can too often lead to ad…

you've gone into ad hominem territory and are claiming to be a grown adult, i'll let you go about your business but trying to claim it's not quackery will get you shot down in any forum. linking your medical and mental condition breaks down very quickly

There was no ad-hom. My point was that you're denying the judgements of grown adults about what is effective for them, and you haven't provided any insights with any expert backing but rather are just contemptuously arguing for adherence to what you consider to be mainstream orthodoxy.

Recall that this whole subthread began with your mockery of a method developed by a mainstream-qualified doctor that has helped thousands of people over many years.

The thing is, what you're arguing for is not even part of mainstream medical orthodoxy.

Mainstream medical literature linking chronic muscle-tension and pain to mental health is plentiful, along with the effectiveness of mainstream psychiatric treatments like CBT, and less-mainstream-accepted practices like mindfulness and meditation.

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4526658/

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3237294/

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4914381/

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3200134/

https://www.nih.gov/news-events/nih-research-matters/meditat...

And here's a specific study on Sarno's technique:

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2955480/

I'm the first to concede that none of these studies are a home run. Human physiology is vastly complex and the factors leading to chronic illness and pain will inevitably be hard to isolate and different from one person to another.

But the plentiful supply of both anecdotal and clinical evidence warrants far more open-minded consideration than you're allowing for with your contemptuous dismissals.

Re: I’ve used Dvorak for 10 years, and it’s not all that

#183

Post by heavenlyblue » Sat, Feb 23, 2019, 11:43 PM UTC

blunte wrote: post #176

heavenlyblue wrote: post #146

Earlier quoted context omitted.

>> How often is that tilda needed? That is a poor trade. That tilda is needed every time I need to access my home directory on Linux, and the backslash key is also a pipe key when you press shift - so I can use a pipe in command line using a single hand. I actually come from a country with US keyboard by-default. Now, whenever possible - I switch to UK layout even on MacBooks. UK layout is actually wonderful for deve…

Seriously, are you suggesting that you reference your home directory so often that it is a more frequent need than hitting Return? Every single command you type ends with return. Unless you are typing long paragraphs in a word processor with line wrapping, you will be hitting return once every 80 characters or less on average (much less in the case of commands). Do you really need to reference a unix home directory o…

But I do have a return key, don't I? I don't particularly care about the size of the keys since I will remember their placement anyway, by a certain time.

I do care about their placement, however - since that's where my fingers are physically limited.