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Stop Saying, ‘We Take Your Privacy and Security Seriously’

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Re: Stop Saying, ‘We Take Your Privacy and Security Seriously’

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Post by wirrbel »

emilis_info wrote: post #5

Also stop saying "Before you go further..." we need to share your data with tens of corporations. /s Note to non-EU users: Techcrunch is completely blocking the page with a popup asking me to share my location and behavioral data (for advertising purposes) with a probably very long list of companies (something called "Oath" family). The logos shown are for Yahoo, Aol, Autoblog, Huffpost and Engadget. Nah. I'll skip a…

I just clicked through the links of that banner and I landed on https://www.oath.com/de/my-data/#protectingdata anyways, I will not read the article because I am sure these dialogs are built in a way to gain "consent" by trickery.

Re: Stop Saying, ‘We Take Your Privacy and Security Seriously’

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Post by sokoloff »

jobigoud wrote: post #9
vntok wrote: post #4

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Tracking cookies provide incommensurable value to site owners for improving the quality of their web properties, which ultimately benefits users. Example abound: finding out where people are the most frustrated (high exit rates), what content drives the most interest (page views), what content is missing or inaccurate (high bounce rate and low visit duration for visitors coming from Google), how they are using the si…

Wait, exit points, page views, bounces… Can't you measure these just from the server's log? I don't think you need to track an individual's navigation pattern and store a cookie on their machine to crunch these stats.

An exit point or a bounce is inherently a property of an individual’s navigation pattern.

Re: Stop Saying, ‘We Take Your Privacy and Security Seriously’

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Post by _rrnv »

emilis_info wrote: post #5

Also stop saying "Before you go further..." we need to share your data with tens of corporations. /s Note to non-EU users: Techcrunch is completely blocking the page with a popup asking me to share my location and behavioral data (for advertising purposes) with a probably very long list of companies (something called "Oath" family). The logos shown are for Yahoo, Aol, Autoblog, Huffpost and Engadget. Nah. I'll skip a…

Oath has one of the more nagging GDPR pop-ups. I like Slashdot, they at least give an opt-out option to access the content. On TC you are either opting-in or forbidden to access. And it's not like a technical necessity either. My company, ProcessOne, has a Wordpress blog that doesn't set any cookies or local storage. It uses Google Analytics and internal WP stats. But they are properly configured to not track, just measure.

Re: Stop Saying, ‘We Take Your Privacy and Security Seriously’

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Post by atoav »

vntok wrote: post #4
atoav wrote: post #2

Say it, when you do. Say: We take your Privacy and Security seriously that is why we won’t ever store a tracking cookie on your machine. If you still want to support us by different means, click here Anybody who takes your privacy seriously won’t even have to ask for consent, because there is nothing to ask for

Tracking cookies provide incommensurable value to site owners for improving the quality of their web properties, which ultimately benefits users. Example abound: finding out where people are the most frustrated (high exit rates), what content drives the most interest (page views), what content is missing or inaccurate (high bounce rate and low visit duration for visitors coming from Google), how they are using the si…

While I understand the need for reliable and granular information on your users, it should technically possible to get most of that without selling your users off to third party services whose practies you never checked for yourself.

Furthermore it should be possible to sell ad space without directly embedding potentially malicious stuff from foreign whose content might change on such a granular level even you as the site owner cannot verify what is served to your visitors.

It is possible to use webfonts without loading it from a foreign servers.

It is possible to verify real users without training the AI models of monopolist webcompanies.

It is possible to link to your Facebook page without embedding a Facebook tracker in an icon.

It is possible to get comments without giving these to other parties.

These are all decisions you take when you decide whether you really value your users privacy.

Of course sometimes you don’t have much of a choice, but I saw sites which decided against all points raised above, and list about 30 trackers that are enabled per default and still claim they value their users privacy. So not only do you not value my privacy, but you also lie to me.

I avoid sites like these like the pest and will close that tab before reading anything.

Re: Stop Saying, ‘We Take Your Privacy and Security Seriously’

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Post by adambowles »

emilis_info wrote: post #5

Also stop saying "Before you go further..." we need to share your data with tens of corporations. /s Note to non-EU users: Techcrunch is completely blocking the page with a popup asking me to share my location and behavioral data (for advertising purposes) with a probably very long list of companies (something called "Oath" family). The logos shown are for Yahoo, Aol, Autoblog, Huffpost and Engadget. Nah. I'll skip a…

Yep. Frustratingly, the content pops in momentarily before the cookie popup system removes it all

Re: Stop Saying, ‘We Take Your Privacy and Security Seriously’

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Post by tyfon »

scotty79 wrote: post #7

‘We Take Your Privacy and Security. Seriously.’

That statement has become my no. 1 cue to leave the site immediately, or rather the "We value your privacy".

Yeah, you value it so much that you sell it on because it is actually valuable.

I wonder what the tracking cookies show about bounce from those messages.. Probably not a lot but.

Edit: Oh I misread the OP.. We _take_ your privacy and security! laughs

Re: Stop Saying, ‘We Take Your Privacy and Security Seriously’

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Post by formatkaka »

A question:

What is privacy issue exactly about ? I see regular posts on HN about it. Is it about storing user-data on my end or sharing the user-data with third party or not taking the user consent.

P.S. - Trying to understand the root cause because I work with a startup building SAAS and would like to avoid such mistakes.

Re: Stop Saying, ‘We Take Your Privacy and Security Seriously’

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Post by knolan »

adambowles wrote: post #15
emilis_info wrote: post #5

Also stop saying "Before you go further..." we need to share your data with tens of corporations. /s Note to non-EU users: Techcrunch is completely blocking the page with a popup asking me to share my location and behavioral data (for advertising purposes) with a probably very long list of companies (something called "Oath" family). The logos shown are for Yahoo, Aol, Autoblog, Huffpost and Engadget. Nah. I'll skip a…

Yep. Frustratingly, the content pops in momentarily before the cookie popup system removes it all

Occasionally Safari’s reader mode can be used to show the content. I know other browsers now have a similar feature.

Re: Stop Saying, ‘We Take Your Privacy and Security Seriously’

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Post by jannes »

emilis_info wrote: post #5

Also stop saying "Before you go further..." we need to share your data with tens of corporations. /s Note to non-EU users: Techcrunch is completely blocking the page with a popup asking me to share my location and behavioral data (for advertising purposes) with a probably very long list of companies (something called "Oath" family). The logos shown are for Yahoo, Aol, Autoblog, Huffpost and Engadget. Nah. I'll skip a…

Just disable 1st-party scripts and 3rd-party scripts in the uBlock Origin popup for techcrunch.com and that modal should not appear anymore.

https://prnt.sc/mo26b4

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