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SleepyHead Project Is Shutting Down

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Re: SleepyHead Project Is Shutting Down

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post #20

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Curious; what are the perils of drinking wine with dinner?

Drinking alcohol prior to sleep can cause poor sleep quality. https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4666864/

So I should day drink instead?

Re: SleepyHead Project Is Shutting Down

#42
post #20

Two innovations have revolutionized my life—CPAP and Sleepyhead. I volunteered to do a sleep study at the famous Stanford Sleep Clinic some 15 years ago hoping that they would tell me I’m superhuman and don’t need sleep. They came back and told me that I sleep very poorly. CPAP machines are (finally) wonderful, but the manufacturers don’t share any of the data that their machines collect other than basics like hours…

Curious; what are the perils of drinking wine with dinner?

Alcohol relaxes the muscles and tissues in your airway and causes more obstruction. People who normally do not snore at all will often snore after drinking alcohol. If you already have a problem with snoring or apnea, it will become worse after drinking.

Re: SleepyHead Project Is Shutting Down

#44

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Drinking alcohol prior to sleep can cause poor sleep quality. https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4666864/

So I should day drink instead?

I am pretty sure you know the answer to that.

(it is "yes")

Re: SleepyHead Project Is Shutting Down

#45
post #25

From the linked blog post: > Let it be known that the hosts of the ApneaBoard forum have finally succeeded in their efforts to hijack the SleepyHead project. Sounds like it's not "shutting down" as much as forked, and he's upset. Also it looks like the reason why it's getting forked is because critical bugs went out. People are relying on this to live, and he's treating it like a hobby -- because it is to him. His po…

> The code is GPLed[1]. It sounds like there were other people willing to contribute. The code goes on, without him. That's not how it works - other people are free to fork the code , but the trademark is owned by the original author. This is one of the reasons why open source foundations exist - they hold the trademark and decide on how it can be used. For instance, CNCF or Apache Foundation holds the trademark for…

If he's giving up and abandoning it, then the trademark won't continue to belong to him.

> Trademarks rights must be maintained through actual lawful use of the trademark. These rights will cease if a mark is not actively used for a period of time, normally 5 years in most jurisdictions.

[1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trademark#Maintaining_rights

Re: SleepyHead Project Is Shutting Down

#46

Not so Black and White, e.g. from the apneaboard forum he trashes: >The pattern goes like this: 1. JediMark asks for feedback, development help etc. 2. Folks step up to the plate and help him out. 3. The code is improved and released. 4. Time passes, bugs are found, new machines need support, so those that help Mark out try to contact him to inform him of these needful things. 5. Mark goes "dark" and drops out of any…

Indeed this guy created his own problems and blames others for them. Maybe he needs some more sleep.

Re: SleepyHead Project Is Shutting Down

#47
post #27
post #10

I have no knowledge of this issue, but there seems to be more background here: http://www.cpaptalk.com/viewtopic/t174687/SleepyHead-Project... First post is by Jedimark, which goes into more detail, and there are some comments with other sides of the story.

For those who have only read the parent blogpost, I would suggest reading at least the first page of this thread. There certainly seems to be another side to this story. The author seems to take any input or effort from others to improve his open source and GPL licensed project as a personal attack. If you're an open source project maintainer who has an ever growing foes list of people who develop forks of your proje…

> you might want to re-evaluate yourself.

To his credit, that is exactly what he did, and the result of that evaluation is visible right here; he decided that foss world was not for him.

Re: SleepyHead Project Is Shutting Down

#48
post #17

Couldn't he just get a subscriber list that pay for the software and releases? I get that it's free, and great, but ongoing support takes his time. Put up a paypal link, or your preferred method, and get 300-500 people to sign up for $100/yr (for example). If there are forums, there are paying customers.

As far as I can tell, the issue was not money but control. He clearly disliked the community taking the software in their own hands without his input.

Re: SleepyHead Project Is Shutting Down

#50
post #48
post #17

Couldn't he just get a subscriber list that pay for the software and releases? I get that it's free, and great, but ongoing support takes his time. Put up a paypal link, or your preferred method, and get 300-500 people to sign up for $100/yr (for example). If there are forums, there are paying customers.

As far as I can tell, the issue was not money but control. He clearly disliked the community taking the software in their own hands without his input.

Ouch. It would seem his choices woudld be either open source with a strong hand and commercial variant (a la Rails/Ruby Sidekiq) or open source and one lets it be free.
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