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How Former Ref Tim Donaghy Conspired to Fix NBA Games

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Re: How Former Ref Tim Donaghy Conspired to Fix NBA Games

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Post by jds375 »

harry8 wrote: post #7

The nba clearly wants the refs to be bent, it's a requirement. They actively encourage seeing it the home teams way, favouring the big stars and call it to keep it close as this is all good for marketing. The question is not whether the refs are bent it's merely who is paying them to be so. I doubt anyone thinks the nba refs honestly try to enforce the rules with an even hand. Do any adults think this? NBA is a mix o…

I don't think it's that simple and I don't see why it's a given that refs are bent.

There is far more money at stake in maintaining the legitimacy of the the NBA (player salaries, tv deals, team valuations - all of these easily trump all the money made off of betting). Wouldn't that money fight a lot harder than any bent refs in order to fight corruption and maintain the legitimacy of the NBA?

If a bigger story about bent refs got out it would destroy the NBA and a lot of the associated revenue. I'm sure the NBA is aware of this.

I'm not arguing that there is no corruption, but I don't see why it's so 'obviously' commonplace as you and others suggest. I'd like a more concrete reason why than 'its good for marketing' since that seems like a weak argument in the bigger picture of money made from the NBA.

Re: How Former Ref Tim Donaghy Conspired to Fix NBA Games

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Post by praneshp »

justtopost wrote: post #14
genzoman wrote: post #12

Earlier quoted context omitted.

This is true in all professional sport. After all, it's entertainment, a movie which can change its ending. If something is on TV, it's amenable to be gamed.

Completely true. I challenge a downvoter to reply with any pro sport without confirmed fixing, PED use, and predatory hiring.

> I challenge a downvoter to reply with any pro sport without confirmed fixing, PED use, and predatory hiring.

That's not the point your parent comment made. Your statement should be "I challenge a downvoter to reply with any pro sport that wants non-bent refs"

Re: How Former Ref Tim Donaghy Conspired to Fix NBA Games

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Post by agarden »

hnrodey wrote: post #23

This story is years old - why is it back the news? What changed? The publish date on the article is February 19th, 2019.

The author put two years of work into reporting it. A lot more detail and strong evidence that contrary to what was claimed 12 years ago, Tim Donaghy was throwing games.

Re: How Former Ref Tim Donaghy Conspired to Fix NBA Games

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Post by pnw_hazor »

itsallrelative wrote: post #19
harry8 wrote: post #7

The nba clearly wants the refs to be bent, it's a requirement. They actively encourage seeing it the home teams way, favouring the big stars and call it to keep it close as this is all good for marketing. The question is not whether the refs are bent it's merely who is paying them to be so. I doubt anyone thinks the nba refs honestly try to enforce the rules with an even hand. Do any adults think this? NBA is a mix o…

How often do you watch games? I think that instances of this are much closer to an outlier than the usual. By nature of their jobs, refs only get talked about when there’s a controversial call. Superstar calls included(which is something that is as much a skill as it is bias), it’s extremely easy to say “they’re not making even handed decisions” if that’s the perspective you chose to look at it from.

They only throw the games when it is important.

1993 Game 7 WC Finals Suns had 64 free throw attempts. But it was important for the Suns to win because Chicago had won the East the day before and Barkley v. Jordan just had to happen.

https://nextimpulsesports.com/2013/06/05/flashback-the-day-p...

Re: How Former Ref Tim Donaghy Conspired to Fix NBA Games

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Post by juddlyon »

This is a messed up story, but the idea that the NBA is rigged is patently ridiculous.

The refs are humans and are biased to crowd noise, and you can bet it harder to stand up to LeBron James screaming at you than Quinn Cook.

What evidence is there that they "actively encourage seeing it the home teams way?" What if a huge star is on the road, what's the call there?

Of course they want the bigger media markets to do well and competitive gameplay.

Do you think they're rigging it so Milwaukee or Portland is good? What about the 20 year run of the Spurs?

Re: How Former Ref Tim Donaghy Conspired to Fix NBA Games

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Post by drenvuk »

jds375 wrote: post #21
harry8 wrote: post #7

The nba clearly wants the refs to be bent, it's a requirement. They actively encourage seeing it the home teams way, favouring the big stars and call it to keep it close as this is all good for marketing. The question is not whether the refs are bent it's merely who is paying them to be so. I doubt anyone thinks the nba refs honestly try to enforce the rules with an even hand. Do any adults think this? NBA is a mix o…

I don't think it's that simple and I don't see why it's a given that refs are bent. There is far more money at stake in maintaining the legitimacy of the the NBA (player salaries, tv deals, team valuations - all of these easily trump all the money made off of betting). Wouldn't that money fight a lot harder than any bent refs in order to fight corruption and maintain the legitimacy of the NBA? If a bigger story about…

If you've watched any NBA in the past decade you can see a trend of calling fouls against teams that are winning too heavily against favorites. It's not hard.
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