I am a Mac user and I have a new wish: browser vendors releasing alpha and beta versions named as such: so instead of Opera I would have Opera11a in .dmg. Then I would simply drag it into my Application. Now I drag it on desktop, rename, and drag into Applications…
Opera 11 - new and improved (Alpha)
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Re: Opera 11 - new and improved (Alpha)
#22Earlier quoted context omitted.
Huh? I don't have any problems with Gmail under Opera. As for the "who downvoted" I guess it was someone who thinks that it's Google that should be blamed for most of "the problems" with Google's services under Opera. It's a browser that's very standard compliant and yet they don't even let you do such silly thing as changing background image on Google's front page (and of course it works fine if only you mask Opera…
Let me disagree here. Although Opera is positioned itself as standard compliant, it has many issues with javascript. Some functions are working incorrectly, some just not working, some events firing, some not. Right click is disabled too.. I'm not against Opera, but we should think about stuffs above. Regarding Google - google making their money from adverts, from people who using google. Do you really think that goo…
If you are having problems with javascript in Opera, I would really like to hear about them so that they can be fixed. There is a bug report form at [1], or reply here. Obviously it is nice if you have a reduced testcase, but just knowing that a site fails is immensely useful.
Re: Opera 11 - new and improved (Alpha)
#23That address field feature is a cool idea. I'd expect other browsers "copying" it soon, which would make it another item on a list entitled "Invented by Opera, popularized by others".
I don't understand what you find "cool": not showing protocol, not showing query parameters, or both? > Parameters at the end of web addresses are visually hidden when the address field is not focused I think those are terrible, terrible ideas; to the best of my knowledge this behavior was pioneered by Chrome and is now growing like a cancer, under the false premise that "non-technical users don't understand urls". H…
I've realized that hiding of https:// actually makes sense. You could mistakenly believe that page delivered over https:// is secure, but there are several cases, when it's not true (e.g. page embedding JavaScript over plain HTTP).
A true security indicator replacing https:// in the addressbar makes more sense, and it shows secure only when connection is really secure (as far as SSL is concerned of course).
Re: Opera 11 - new and improved (Alpha)
#24That address field feature is a cool idea. I'd expect other browsers "copying" it soon, which would make it another item on a list entitled "Invented by Opera, popularized by others".
I don't understand what you find "cool": not showing protocol, not showing query parameters, or both? > Parameters at the end of web addresses are visually hidden when the address field is not focused I think those are terrible, terrible ideas; to the best of my knowledge this behavior was pioneered by Chrome and is now growing like a cancer, under the false premise that "non-technical users don't understand urls". H…
Edit: plus if this http://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=1921100 is true (don't have Opera 11 here to check it) then hiding protocol it's hardly a problem.
Re: Opera 11 - new and improved (Alpha)
#25Earlier quoted context omitted.
I dont know who downvoted you, but as an Opera user that uses Firefox to check Gmail, I'm waiting for the same thing myself!
Huh? I don't have any problems with Gmail under Opera. As for the "who downvoted" I guess it was someone who thinks that it's Google that should be blamed for most of "the problems" with Google's services under Opera. It's a browser that's very standard compliant and yet they don't even let you do such silly thing as changing background image on Google's front page (and of course it works fine if only you mask Opera…
Re: Opera 11 - new and improved (Alpha)
#26Earlier quoted context omitted.
Huh? I don't have any problems with Gmail under Opera. As for the "who downvoted" I guess it was someone who thinks that it's Google that should be blamed for most of "the problems" with Google's services under Opera. It's a browser that's very standard compliant and yet they don't even let you do such silly thing as changing background image on Google's front page (and of course it works fine if only you mask Opera…
Let me disagree here. Although Opera is positioned itself as standard compliant, it has many issues with javascript. Some functions are working incorrectly, some just not working, some events firing, some not. Right click is disabled too.. I'm not against Opera, but we should think about stuffs above. Regarding Google - google making their money from adverts, from people who using google. Do you really think that goo…
It works in zimbra.
Re: Opera 11 - new and improved (Alpha)
#27That address field feature is a cool idea. I'd expect other browsers "copying" it soon, which would make it another item on a list entitled "Invented by Opera, popularized by others".
The way Opera hides http:// is a nice touch (edit: because they avoided copy&paste problem that Chrome has) , but such addressbar style has been pioneered by Firefox (extensions) and Chrome.
Re: Opera 11 - new and improved (Alpha)
#28Scores only 179 on html5test.com. Chrome dev: 241, Webkit nightly: 243, Firefox 4 beta: 217
Re: Opera 11 - new and improved (Alpha)
#29That address field feature is a cool idea. I'd expect other browsers "copying" it soon, which would make it another item on a list entitled "Invented by Opera, popularized by others".
I don't understand what you find "cool": not showing protocol, not showing query parameters, or both? > Parameters at the end of web addresses are visually hidden when the address field is not focused I think those are terrible, terrible ideas; to the best of my knowledge this behavior was pioneered by Chrome and is now growing like a cancer, under the false premise that "non-technical users don't understand urls". H…
hxxp://mc564.mail.yahooo.cz/mc/welcome?.gx=1&.tm=1290173262&.rand=8a8hcjme2nb60#_pg=showMessage& sMid=13&&filterBy=&.rand=1020435964&midIndex=13&mid=1_41637_AFNv%2FNgAARb0TMWfVwycxVDDYoo&fromId=sendreceive@iso50.com&m=1_45237_AFRv%2FNgAALZZTMxQEQbt1QDuB60,1_44482_AFRv%2FNgAAX6dTMscRg7DzmBp0%2BM,1_43847_AFRv%2FNgAAWU6TMoFPgz8kG1tlus,1_43135_AFVv%2FNgAAPHWTMixWAJSDRUfECQ,1_42368_AFNv%2FNgAAEUnTMcCHAZk2EsgYvc,1_41637_AFNv%2FNgAARb0TMWfVwycxVDDYoo,1_40918_AFdv%2FNgAAOo%2FTMMVTQtEN0nYhxw,1_40277_AFdv%2FNgAAK2ETMGqmwMZ%2Fm865vA,1_39560_AFdv%2FNgAAJLQTMBzaQzIs28a2Uc,1_38916_AFJv%2FNgAAGfRTL97CgGm0yp6dBs,1_38170_AFZv%2FNgAAAK%2BTL4DxwdptRQfn90,&sort=date&order=down&startMid=0&hash=30c49f5b9f61273beed1953ae7674c2f&.jsrand=5917415
How likely are you to notice the problems with this URL? I'm pretty sure I wouldn't. I wouldn't be surprised to find out that non-technical users consider the address field a sort of write-only space; they type something comprehensible in there, and the browser destroys it. The simplified address field with the bold domain name is a lot easier to read, and that probably increases the chances that it will be read, rather than ignored. The full URL is just one click away.Re: Opera 11 - new and improved (Alpha)
#30Earlier quoted context omitted.
I don't understand what you find "cool": not showing protocol, not showing query parameters, or both? > Parameters at the end of web addresses are visually hidden when the address field is not focused I think those are terrible, terrible ideas; to the best of my knowledge this behavior was pioneered by Chrome and is now growing like a cancer, under the false premise that "non-technical users don't understand urls". H…
I'm sympathetic to the argument that hiding information is counter-educational. But nothing exists in a vacuum. There are serious problems to deal with, too. I suspect the concern is phishing. Consider: hxxp://mc564.mail.yahooo.cz/mc/welcome?.gx=1&.tm=1290173262&.rand=8a8hcjme2nb60#_pg=showMessage& sMid=13&&filterBy=&.rand=1020435964&midIndex=13&mid=1_41637_AFNv%2FNgAARb0TMWfVwycxVDDYoo&fromId=sendreceive@iso50.com&m…
It's changing the layout.