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Re: Public protest against Amazon

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Post by john_moscow »

freewilly1040 wrote: post #378
amzn_throwaway7 wrote: post #376

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Not at all implying that is negative, just saying that it contradicts the story of being forced to work weekends. EDIT: I've gone ahead and just removed that point from my original post. Just because his manager asked him to work weekends, doesn't mean he did. I sure as hell wouldn't.

You're not fooling anyone with this, and it's really unethical* to post personal information about the guy here. You should really consider deleting your post. Edit: * And, as others have noted, extremely unwise for you personally. This post is at the top of Hack News and you've used your privileges as an Amazon employee to leak information about someone suing the company.

Unless he's already a sock puppet of the legal team.

Re: Public protest against Amazon

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Post by i_am_new_here »

nojvek wrote: post #248

> One Amazon employee said when her father was dying, her boss told “you are the problem” and prevented her from visiting the father. Another Amazon employee saw his unborn child died during pregnancy when he was under oppression by his manager. There are a lot of cases like that. Amazon is built on blood. Holyshit. This sounds like modern day slavery. Isn’t this bordering on crime against humanity?

Miscarriages are very common and not much talked about and I am sorry she couldn't see her father that day.

Re: Public protest against Amazon

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Post by jhwang5 »

freewilly1040 wrote: post #378
amzn_throwaway7 wrote: post #376

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Not at all implying that is negative, just saying that it contradicts the story of being forced to work weekends. EDIT: I've gone ahead and just removed that point from my original post. Just because his manager asked him to work weekends, doesn't mean he did. I sure as hell wouldn't.

You're not fooling anyone with this, and it's really unethical* to post personal information about the guy here. You should really consider deleting your post. Edit: * And, as others have noted, extremely unwise for you personally. This post is at the top of Hack News and you've used your privileges as an Amazon employee to leak information about someone suing the company.

Devil's advocate - since there's two sides to every story- he's trying to provide more data points around the story. In my view, he's doing people a favor here.

Re: Public protest against Amazon

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Post by selfselfself »

amztawy_1190 wrote: post #415
curiousDog wrote: post #402

Word of advice, never work for Amazon. Out of the FANGs, it is quite easily the sleaziest place to work. As someone who worked there, I can believe OPs side of the story. At this point, most of the people who tolerate working there are indentured Indian H1-B employees because they’re stuck in the Green card queue. Even amongst them, the good ones left for greener pastures a long time ago!

Which team? Before I joined I spoke with a few friends who work there (after reading the NYT article and comments like yours) and got positive feedback. I work here for the past 3 years and so far touch wood nothing even near this. Pretty happy all in all. It’s like people talk about a different company. I’m at AWS, Sr SDE, any teams the above warning is more applicable to? Asking for myself in case I want to switch…

Since you mentioned you want to protest, are you going to join Oleg? Seems like a good starting point.

Re: Public protest against Amazon

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Post by DoreenMichele »

amzn_throwaway7 wrote: post #335

The author of the article posted their Amazon user name, so I decided to look them up. I'll start with raw data, and then inject my own thoughts: * The author is the bottom contributor on his team by a large margin. Their few contributions are primarily configuration changes and pixel pushes. * The author hasn't made any contributions since last August, likely due to a leave of absence * The author's manager has rece…

When I had a corporate job, digging through internal data like this for personal curiosity could have gotten me fired if I were caught, even without posting it publicly on the internet.

Re: Public protest against Amazon

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Post by selfselfself »

tozeur wrote: post #394
amzn_throwaway7 wrote: post #335

The author of the article posted their Amazon user name, so I decided to look them up. I'll start with raw data, and then inject my own thoughts: * The author is the bottom contributor on his team by a large margin. Their few contributions are primarily configuration changes and pixel pushes. * The author hasn't made any contributions since last August, likely due to a leave of absence * The author's manager has rece…

How did you get access to a specific managers yearly feedback? That doesn’t seem normal that all managers’ feedback is publicly posted.

Can confirm, this info isn't public at Amazon

Re: Public protest against Amazon

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Post by piyush_soni »

freewilly1040 wrote: post #374
amzn_throwaway7 wrote: post #335

The author of the article posted their Amazon user name, so I decided to look them up. I'll start with raw data, and then inject my own thoughts: * The author is the bottom contributor on his team by a large margin. Their few contributions are primarily configuration changes and pixel pushes. * The author hasn't made any contributions since last August, likely due to a leave of absence * The author's manager has rece…

Not doing much to help Amazon’s image by bringing up a lack of weekend contributions as a negative.

Also, no commits on weekends does not necessarily mean he did not work on those days. I "commit" my work only every few days.

Re: Public protest against Amazon

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Post by watwut »

kamaal wrote: post #397
forgotmypw3 wrote: post #13

I want to preface this comment with a statement that in no way am I trying to blame the victim here, only to point out what can be learned from this situation. This is certainly not the first time I've heard of Amazon being a shitty place to work at, and I don't see much reason to doubt the story of a vindictive boss doing everything they can to make an employee miserable after learning that the employee submitted ba…

>>Never submit negative feedback via "anonymous" or "confidential" feedback processes at work Never give feedback at work, unless positive. This includes things like code review. The dirty little secret of human relationships is every one wants to be made to feel special, error less and look good. Only thing any kind of feed back, correction or criticism leads to is rivalry/enmity, and it won't end well. The question…

Not every workplace is as sociopathic. And I would rather emulate people who have ethical limits rather then those who seek power regarless of how much they lie or cause harm .

Re: Public protest against Amazon

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Post by john_moscow »

MattyRad wrote: post #358
john_moscow wrote: post #336

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Yuck, >Self-Represented Plaintiff Oleg Churyumov. This won't end well for the guy.

He's self representing himself for the case? Does anyone know if there is any reasoning behind this? Even lawyers aren't recommended to represent themselves... going up against Amazon's lawyers with- no offense to the author- imperfect English, sounds like it would be more of a firing squad than a lawsuit.

As a fellow Russian, the impression I got from the original post is that the author has no idea how PR, legal system, juries, diplomacy and workplace politics work in the U.S. Kinda sad because those things are orthogonal to your software development skills.
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