Just wanted to point out that he's currently suing all of these people and the company for discrimination.
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#12This kind of retribution is pretty normal from the companies I've worked it, it's clumsy that it ended up in writing here and a bit more vicious than usual with a child involved. Normally it's done offline in private conversations or simply as something that's understood between like minded managers with passing comments.
One manager I had was pretty candid about it, he said he couldn't find another job and was looking to retire so he was going to give me a bad performance review despite actually being the top performer so he wouldn't be affected. He was otherwise very apologetic that his hand was forced.
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#13I want to preface this comment with a statement that in no way am I trying to blame the victim here, only to point out what can be learned from this situation.
This is certainly not the first time I've heard of Amazon being a shitty place to work at, and I don't see much reason to doubt the story of a vindictive boss doing everything they can to make an employee miserable after learning that the employee submitted bad feedback against them.
The two lessons I can extract from this post for myself are.
1. Never submit negative feedback via "anonymous" or "confidential" feedback processes at work, especially against a particular person, especially your boss.
It's been covered on HN before how these things are never really anonymous and confidential, and it should be kind of obvious to figure out if you think about it.
2. If you are at your job as part of your Visa process, you are essentially a slave with a slave's rights to match, and you are better off not rocking the boat if you want to complete the process.
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#14I had a manager that took over from a previous person when I was working remote. There were a few issues, but the one that stands out is they flew me down to London for a week, set me up in a hotel, and had me take taxis back and fourth to the office and expense food etc.
After returning home, he rejected my expenses because of variance of costs of the taxis, despite me pointing out that I was using the stipulated vendor and the difference in cost was between me leaving the office at rush hour and me leaving the office around 9-10pm.
Not only did he reject the taxi expenses, but the hotel, the flights, the food, etc. The guy was obviously a class act in his 50s, rejecting the expenses of a fairly underpaid 25 year old employee living in Scotland.
Super illegal but ultimatly I quit, because life is too short to work for horrible people.
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#15Just wanted to point out that he's currently suing all of these people and the company for discrimination.
As intense these allegations are, someone on the Internet once said that it's best to keep these things offline until investigations/lawsuits are done. Is that true?
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#16You got fired. Cry me a river.
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#17I want to preface this comment with a statement that in no way am I trying to blame the victim here, only to point out what can be learned from this situation. This is certainly not the first time I've heard of Amazon being a shitty place to work at, and I don't see much reason to doubt the story of a vindictive boss doing everything they can to make an employee miserable after learning that the employee submitted ba…
Regarding number 2. I absolutely agree and we need to change the visa system to prevent the routine abuse that happens to people because of it.
Though I don't know how we can change it to prevent that.
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#18> I am sure in the future Mr Bezos will be placed in one line with Adolf Hitler as an example of genocide. The guy may have a case somewhere in there, but this kind of hyperbole isn't doing it any favors. Stripping out the fluff, the concrete concerns seem to be: - Denied permission to transfer - Denied permission to WFH - Placed on PIP and eventually fired The author's hypothesis is "manager is evil and this is all…
- Left negative feedback for manager -> Prohibited to leave feedback by manager.
- Required to work on weekends.
- Denied some form of immigration benefits behind his back.
- Told that his wife having a job has anything whatsoever with him being able to transfer.
- The above being a lie.
- Required to show up 4 hours before everyone else.
- Punished for using sick days.
I don't think any of the concrete concerns I listed above are subject to the authors interpretation. Short of the author lying they appear to be valid complaints.
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#19Just wanted to point out that he's currently suing all of these people and the company for discrimination.
As intense these allegations are, someone on the Internet once said that it's best to keep these things offline until investigations/lawsuits are done. Is that true?
Well, yea, you can only hurt your case, not help it.
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#20You got fired. Cry me a river.
What are you hoping to accomplish with this post?