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Amazon is trying hard to keep counterfeits and fake products/reviews under the rugs for as long as possible, so the more publicity to their ignorance - the merrier.
Amazon Caught Selling Counterfeits of Publisher’s Computer Books–Again
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Re: Amazon Caught Selling Counterfeits of Publisher’s Computer Books–Again
#82Amazon gets away with this because it's practically impossible for small business owners or authors to police their site. It's similar to Google, where they let counterfeits thrive, but real content creators get fake DMCA notices and shut down. I really hate to say this, but large companies like this need to be regulated via laws. There's simply no other choice. Having Amazon throw their hands up and say "There's not…
large companies like this need to be regulated via laws
They are, and you cited it: the DMCA. You can read it here:
https://www.copyright.gov/legislation/pl105-304.pdf
It is mixed bag. One of the effects is that it deters proactive culling of material because once you start doing that, you may become liable for items you miss. It is why we end up up with systems that are driven by external takedown requests.
Re: Amazon Caught Selling Counterfeits of Publisher’s Computer Books–Again
#83I am currently caught up in an amazon scam. The third party seller listed items, put in fake shipping, item never arrived. It's been over a month and I am still fighting amazon to get my money back. They have an "A to Z guarantee" which doesn't work, at least not in my case.
The seller didn't even need to sell counterfeit items without running off with my money. Amazon customer support has no idea what to do since the third party is supposed to refund me.
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#84Isn’t it more accurate that a seller is using Amazon’s publishing platform to counterfeit and sell other publishers books? The title suggests Amazon has wrongdoing here. You could make the case that they need more policing and review but it’s not like Amazon is knowingly selling counterfeit here.
Pretty sure selling counterfeit goods, or committing fraud by advertising for them, is illegal. Does hiding behind "but it's not us selling it" work better for stores than for content hosts? What about fraudulent "fulfilled by Amazon" products?
Re: Amazon Caught Selling Counterfeits of Publisher’s Computer Books–Again
#85Isn’t it more accurate that a seller is using Amazon’s publishing platform to counterfeit and sell other publishers books? The title suggests Amazon has wrongdoing here. You could make the case that they need more policing and review but it’s not like Amazon is knowingly selling counterfeit here.
Considering that Amazon fulfills orders using counterfeit items from suppliers that they know have previously provided fakes to customers, and then removes reviews that point out counterfeits, I’d say they’re complicit in it. I’ve personally had a review removed that called out an obviously counterfeit item I received. That was two years ago and the seller is still on Amazon, and Amazon is still removing other reviewers’ bad reviews of them.
Re: Amazon Caught Selling Counterfeits of Publisher’s Computer Books–Again
#86Amazon gets away with this because it's practically impossible for small business owners or authors to police their site. It's similar to Google, where they let counterfeits thrive, but real content creators get fake DMCA notices and shut down. I really hate to say this, but large companies like this need to be regulated via laws. There's simply no other choice. Having Amazon throw their hands up and say "There's not…
Why should large companies be regulated on this specific topic but not small companies? It's equally illegal activity.
In this case, the laws probably need to apply universally.
But scale matters.
Systems (even economic systems) at scale have different characteristics than those that are not. Just like you'd implement a massive AWS system differently than you would a little, single Ec2 service - regulations would probably be characterized differently given the scale and power of the entities involved.
One major difference is risk mitigation: individual consumers may have some power to influence a mom and pop shop, especially one that has a physical retail presence. A negative local news highlight could make a big difference. A single legal grievance could have consequences. There's material risk.
At a certain scale, it seems some of these entities simply don't have to worry about fraud, because 'who's gonna do something about it?'. The only public recourse is public institutions.
Re: Amazon Caught Selling Counterfeits of Publisher’s Computer Books–Again
#87I am currently caught up in an amazon scam. The third party seller listed items, put in fake shipping, item never arrived. It's been over a month and I am still fighting amazon to get my money back. They have an "A to Z guarantee" which doesn't work, at least not in my case. The seller didn't even need to sell counterfeit items without running off with my money. Amazon customer support has no idea what to do since th…
I wonder if Amazon bans you if you file a chargeback.
Re: Amazon Caught Selling Counterfeits of Publisher’s Computer Books–Again
#88Earlier quoted context omitted.
And shock you or destroy your equipment. A lot of what makes real (UL/ETL listed) chargers expensive is making sure that line voltage stays adequately separated from the low voltage side.
> A lot of what makes real (UL/ETL listed) chargers expensive is making sure that line voltage stays adequately separated from the low voltage side. Even a very cheap and simplified design can do that. I wouldn't say "a lot" at all, maybe a few percent of the cost at most. It's a corner that could possibly be cut, but it's not one of the bigger corners.
I've done a lot of charger teardowns, and very cheap chargers always violate UL safety rules. It's a combination of cost (e.g. triple-insulated transformers), it's hard to fit clearance distances into a small charger, sloppy manufacturing, and they don't seem to even try.
Re: Amazon Caught Selling Counterfeits of Publisher’s Computer Books–Again
#89I ordered a copy of Deep Learning [1] from Amazon last week. On Barnes & Noble [2] the book costs $76.80. On Amazon it is just $28.00. I received the book a couple of days ago. The pages look like it was printed using a low-resolution printer, and the ink color is uneven across pages. I am returning the book. Possible counterfeit, sold by a third party seller. On the other hand this book is also available free online…
I ordered a textbook on control theory from Amazon. It arrived, but the material inside the covers is from a small animal veterinary textbook. Byaa different publisher. I took a closer look at the cover, it was poorly printed and didn't quite fit. I'm still confused about how the vendor expected to get away with it. Did they just guess that half of people won't bother opening the textbook? And why not fill it with bl…
Might just be that a large-scale counterfeit printing operation mixed up the covers and bound materials. There are probably counterfeit veterinary textbooks floating around that contain control theory materials.
Re: Amazon Caught Selling Counterfeits of Publisher’s Computer Books–Again
#90I am currently caught up in an amazon scam. The third party seller listed items, put in fake shipping, item never arrived. It's been over a month and I am still fighting amazon to get my money back. They have an "A to Z guarantee" which doesn't work, at least not in my case. The seller didn't even need to sell counterfeit items without running off with my money. Amazon customer support has no idea what to do since th…
I wonder if Amazon bans you if you file a chargeback.
That is what I am really concerned with. Some automatic process that will ban me if I try and fight their system. The only way out is to make enough noise on social media that someone in corporate makes a policy exception.