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Microsoft begins work on its 2020 Windows releases in new preview

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Re: Microsoft begins work on its 2020 Windows releases in new preview

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Post by rincebrain »

acqq wrote: post #51
dragonwriter wrote: post #28

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The maintained version is Open Shell: https://github.com/Open-Shell/Open-Shell-Menu

Looking their commit history, all the last "fixes" were rebranding. If I see it right, the latest substantial fix that is an actual improvement was: https://github.com/Open-Shell/Open-Shell-Menu/issues/53 A patch by Ivo Beltchev himself! In the just world the man would be paid by Microsoft until the end of his life just for what he did up to now. The critical fix before that was important and made by the new maintain…

The problem is, Microsoft Does Not Want to support people using older versions or things which permit emulating older versions.

They saw what happened when they let people drag their feet on XP to avoid change, and are seeing it happen with 7, and have been scorched-earthing everywhere to avoid this recurring.

That and being fed up with {customers coming to them having cherry-picked individual patches they thought were important from WSUS and then having unreplicable issues, users who just outright disabled updates of any severity} were why 10 is now a rolling release One Big Patch you cannot permanently disable updates for.

It's a shame, because from a technical standpoint, Windows 10 has a lot of things I like, but from a usability standpoint, it's sometimes worse than Vista.

Re: Microsoft begins work on its 2020 Windows releases in new preview

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Post by itd00d »

Operyl wrote: post #78
naikrovek wrote: post #77

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Yes, you can. One of the options in that right-click menu is "turn off suggestions" which is how you turn them off.

In my case that is entirely broken. It just leaves it there. That’s why I’m frustrated. Regardless, it’s inappropriate to even have it enabled for a Professional installation. It’s so stupid.

It is broken as of changes in recent months. Want to know how to remove it and keep it from appearing? Go to the store, install it and then once it's truly installed you can truly remove it. If you don't do this the 'stub' will never disappear. Yes, this is the junk a 100k+ staff company implements now. It's baffling.

Re: Microsoft begins work on its 2020 Windows releases in new preview

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Post by itd00d »

alkonaut wrote: post #29
fxfan wrote: post #10

The biggest problem with Microsoft is them not sticking to their strength. I was an avid fanboy till Windows 7. This was an OS that could cater to power users- keyboard shortcuts, powershell (shitty console but anyway). They started running after the touch segment and deliberately removed the keyboard interface. They didn't get the app-buyers and the keyboard people (like me) probably left them. Linux is mature now,…

Even 8.1 was a retreat from the Win8 strategy, and in Win10 I haven’t seen a touch thing at all (I haven’t accidentally started the on screen keyboard that popped up every now and then in 8). Apart from some annoyances - some people get ads on the start menu for example, and the telemetry is universally hated - new releases of 10 are really just a better 7. The improvements such as better high dpi, better shell, wsl…

All the extra padding, whitespace and giant box like elements of design (compare new calc app to old calc app) show that touch is still being pushed. Same with the toggle on/off options for 99% of newer UI windows. Those are aimed purely at one press touch users.

Re: Microsoft begins work on its 2020 Windows releases in new preview

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Post by Operyl »

itd00d wrote: post #83
Operyl wrote: post #78

Earlier quoted context omitted.

In my case that is entirely broken. It just leaves it there. That’s why I’m frustrated. Regardless, it’s inappropriate to even have it enabled for a Professional installation. It’s so stupid.

It is broken as of changes in recent months. Want to know how to remove it and keep it from appearing? Go to the store, install it and then once it's truly installed you can truly remove it. If you don't do this the 'stub' will never disappear. Yes, this is the junk a 100k+ staff company implements now. It's baffling.

Jesus Christ, that’s the kind of shit that makes me dread booting windows now then.

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Post by gregknicholson »

antisthenes wrote: post #79
gregknicholson wrote: post #41

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Have you met our lord and saviour Arch Linux?

When Windows 7 support ends, I'm very seriously considering switching to Linux as a main OS and keeping the W7 machine for air-gapped single player games. Probably not Arch though, something a bit more user friendly, like Elementary OS or Solus Linux

As a Gnome purist, I like Fedora. It's curated almost as strongly as elementary and Solus, just with a different set of software.

Ubuntu is always a reasonable choice; I'd recommend it if you don't mind a slightly clunkier user experience, especially around installing software. Compared to Fedora, it comes with a larger range of worse-curated software packages, aimed much more at dabblers rather than end-users. The breadth of documentation for Ubuntu is as much a curse, because it's now mostly obsolete.

(I've never actually used Arch Linux; it just has a very strong reputation of helpful guidance, but DIY and no babysitting.)

Re: Microsoft begins work on its 2020 Windows releases in new preview

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Post by naikrovek »

itd00d wrote: post #83
Operyl wrote: post #78

Earlier quoted context omitted.

In my case that is entirely broken. It just leaves it there. That’s why I’m frustrated. Regardless, it’s inappropriate to even have it enabled for a Professional installation. It’s so stupid.

It is broken as of changes in recent months. Want to know how to remove it and keep it from appearing? Go to the store, install it and then once it's truly installed you can truly remove it. If you don't do this the 'stub' will never disappear. Yes, this is the junk a 100k+ staff company implements now. It's baffling.

What changes? The monthly patches?
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