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Data leak reveals China is tracking almost 2.6m people in Xinjiang

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

What's the existential reason for organizing complex societies? -_-a

Defense against other complex societies.

What? Other cultures also want to protect their identity? I thought only mine was allowed to.

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That's roughly 10% of the population (23M). At its peak, the Stasi in the DDR had files on about 30% of the East German population.

The technology and social tracking tools that the authorities in Beijing have at their disposal would make the Stasi drool in envy.

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My friend from China explained to me that the surveillance of people is as much top down as much as its bottom up.

- At every village level they have "informants" for the communist party who inform their higher ups regularly about village level activity. They are financially supported with healthcare and education subsidies and so it makes sense for everyone to join in and inform, especially the poor.

- At the city level they have more ways to collect information about people like companies feeding data bases, people interacting with the internet and retail.

He explained that the idea is even if 10% of the population is brain washed they can keep tabs on the 90% and when shit hits the fan they want to be in the know. After Tiananmen they have followed a formula: Keep enough people happy and conforming with economic prosperity and get ahead of the curb for restive remainder.

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Americans are afraid of being invaded by Chinese army, while completely omitting the fact that both Chinese police and 3 letter services have few times bigger budgets (literally, MPS has around 3 times bigger budget than regular land forces,) more men, better training (armed police officers don't spend 50% of their time reading Marx, unlike army officers,) and, in some times, better equipment including heavy weaponry (in China, armed police forces, and "men in black" each have few armoured divisions, and are rumoured to have own heli force)

So, in the end, if West is to be afraid of Chinese invasion, they should be afraid of Chinese armed police, not the regular army.

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